Nationals Q

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edited November -1 in HUDSON
Where are the HET Nats in '10, '11, and '12?



Yeah, I know, "join the club"...I'm not a clubber. Where are they going to be?
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  • Richard E.
    Richard E. Senior Contributor
    If you own a Hudson, Essex or Terraplane, the HET club is best $30 you will spend. The WTN is one of the better magazines in the car club world, plus you get the roster of all the other HETers, who you can call, email, etc., and get help, parts, guidance with you car. I have been a member since I purchased my '36T in 1992 and I really enjoy the club.



    The National in '10 is in Spokane, WA. I am not sure about the next two.
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    2011 is in Oklahoma City, 2012 is in Gettysburg, PA. In case you're wondering, the sequence skips over Central Region because we're doing 2009 there.
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    2010 in in Spokane, WA.



    I 2nd Richard's "best $30 you will spend." The roster itself is worth the price of admission.



    But there are those who want to have the advantage without paying the price. Oh well.



    I've been a club member for 40 years - and haven't regretted my membership at any time along the way. I wouldn't trade away any of the friendships I've made, people I've gotten to know. And when one passes from this life it hurts a little, just like loosing a family member.



    Hudsonly,

    Alex Burr

    Memphis, TN
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I was a National member from 2000 to 2006, and became extremely disenchanted with the National organization after the Reno meet. Not long after that, the then-local Chapter President and I had a serious falling out (thought the chapter was his, since he was a founding member - what a turd!), so I've lost all enthusiasm for Club membership in any "organized" car club - National or otherwise.



    I really do like the WTN magazine, but then, to subscribe, I'd have to join an organization that I have disagreements with, and the average member's voice is NEVER heard by the National leadership. If you are under 60, or haven't been a HET member for 30+ years, you are just a number, just another dues-payer. And the National leadership (and much of the membership at large) will never acknowledge that salient fact. Life is too short for that kind of BS. I enjoy my Terraplane without the "need" of a National or local Club to belong to. Did the Club thing with various other Clubs from 1979 to 2006. Don't need it. To you guys that ARE members, hey, more power to ya! I'm glad you get satisfaction from your membership.



    Haven't looked back, quite frankly. You guys have provided me help here, as I have to some of you. Don't need a club for that, now, do we?
  • MikeWA
    MikeWA Senior Contributor
    Guess my principles aren't quite as deeply rooted as yours- I don't expect any benefit from "the club", don't get any "satisfaction from my membership", and just consider my dues to be a reasonable amount to pay for a good magazine, and inclusion in the Roster.
  • PAULARGETYPE
    PAULARGETYPE Senior Contributor
    Well I Put In My 2 Pennys



    I Like Alex Joind The Het In 1970 Now 40 Years Later And Still Haven't Payed Enouph For All The Help I've Gotten Over The Years I Have Tryed To Payback With My Trying To Help Others



    Your Asking About The National Meets Do You Plan To Attend?



    If So Your Using The Club!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There Is Your $30 In Dues Not Saying Any Thing About The Award Winning Wtn



    The Chapter You Belonged To Also Hads Dues So Why Not Stop Paying Chapter Dues And Keep Paying For The National
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I like Mike liked to be included in the roster plus I know when I finally go to war with those Chevy loving bastards across the alley from my house my HET brothers and sisters will take up arms with me or at least pass the ammo as I fire the spud launcher.......



    Also like the WTN.....read it when I am not declaring war against brand x owners in the neighbourhood.
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    51hornetA wrote:
    I like Mike liked to be included in the roster plus I know when I finally go to war with those Chevy loving bastards across the alley from my house my HET brothers and sisters will take up arms with me or at least pass the ammo as I fire the spud launcher.......



    Also like the WTN.....read it when I am not declaring war against brand x owners in the neighbourhood.



    I love the banter that we have here on the Forum. I have been a member and National Leader in the Vintage Chevrolet Club of America for 40 years. A local Hudson guy convinced me that my next car should be a Hudson. I am on my 3rd Hudson and have been a member since I bought my first Hudson. I am new to the club, I think I have been a member for about ten years. Like Alex and the other positive comments you have heard, I would never be able to pay forward (kind of a silly move--but a great comment) all the kindness that I have been shown since I joined. My last two cars were from members and the help that I have had from Hudson folks reguardless if they are a member or not has been great. With a Hudson it is all about getting a car on the road and enjoying what goes along with that. Being an old guy I have addopted the attitude that there are some people that you smile and walk away from. I see a lot of them in the old car hobby; but, the deepest frendships that I have are from the other type of members that go out of their way to pass on their knowledge and stash of parts. I am one who says, means, and associates with some of the best folks in the hobby. And most of them belong to the HET.:):):)
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Brownie, this forum is not the exclusive domain of the HET. There is a "members only" area, and I don't worry about not being a part of that. Otherwise, this is a completely open and moderated forum that is open to like-minded Hudsonites, whether a HET member or not.



    Real briefly, let me touch on why I'm not a HET member anymore. I've been to two Nats - Wichita and Reno. Wichita was a blast! Had a great time, and met a lot of the people that are here, there. Reno was another story. There were a few people from my old local Chapter there, but I have relatives out in Reno and did not spend a lot of time with the Chapter people. I was more interested in getting parts and stuff for my '37, and since I am very familiar with Reno/Tahoe/Carson, we did stuff away from the hotel. But, I had some questions that I approached a couple of the National officers at the time with, and some suggestions as to do a thing or do a little easier. I was very enthused and had a plan of action in hand...what good is a question or complaint without a possible solution in hand, right? Needless to say, the establishment took my ideas as a personal affront as to how they ran the Club, either because they did not come up with the ideas themselves, or they were talking to a relatively new (and therefore invisible) member. Either way, I was rebuffed and I was pretty pissed about that. So, with that, I figured my input into the "friendly National organization" was for naught, and I let my membership expire. Pretty simple, really.



    The local issue...well, let's just say he stabbed me in the back (figuratively) and I'll let that stand. Some things and people I can forgive, but not this jackass. As long as he is a member of the local Chapter, I will not be. Fortunately, he is a crusty old bastard, so one day, I will rejoin. Once he has gone.



    So, you say I want the benefits of membership w/o paying for a membership? This is a forum. We all have Hudsons. We talk about Hudsons. We drive our Hudsons. So, do I have to be a part of HET to be able to do this? No. Can I bring my car to the Oklahoma City meet in '11 as a non-HET member? Of course I can. It is the same as the Late Great Chevys having their national event and allowing non-LGC members in, or any other club that holds a National or Regional meet.





    I've started Clubs in the past, been a member or officer in others, and the deal with clubs, to me, is that they are a gathering of like-minded folks,not wrapped around cliques, procedures, or rules. Get together, have fun, cruise somewhere or go to a show, whatever. Like most things in life, they end up being venues for political posturing and general useless BS. Life is too short for that crap. Gave up that club membership crap across the board in '06 and do not regret it. And yes, BTW, if I'm going to pay annual dues to a car club of any kind, I DO expect things for my annual dues. I expect to have a voice!
  • russmaas
    russmaas Senior Contributor
    Sounds like 2-3 people tick you off instead of 3600. Maybe you will was not strong enough to over come this. I suppose their is nothing wrong with retreating.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I have veen a HET member for 44 years and this year I am dropping my membership. WHY? Quite frankly, since the 1960"s and 1970's when we had lots of local HET meets and lots of fun, I have seen the club going to HIGH dollar national meets, which I do not like and as good as the WTN is It is even getting boring. Several years ago when I was still in PA. I called one of the Pittsburg organizers about location and other imfo. and got the same reaction as Patrick66. So be it. Tom Bowler
  • Aaron D. IL
    Aaron D. IL Senior Contributor
    I totally understand where Patrick66 and tombia are coming from and frustration as far as the leadership's reaction to suggestion and/or innovation. I too think there's lots of room for improvement. I see that a lot of efforts happen in the club that are individual rather than from any vision or delagation of projects/tasks coming from the leadership. I see also that the character of the club in general is rather conservative. We are afterall driving cars that are 50 + years old.

    BUT I do take that with some grain of salt because the leadership is volunteer, also has day jobs for the most part, and isn't paid to care, and has no authority whatsoever to make a single Hudson owner participate in a darn thing. It's not difficult to get us together because we love Hudson's, it is difficult to get people together to do anything collectively benficial. Anyone who's ever organized human beings for anything also knows that no matter what you do people will come out of the woodwork with criticisms. It takes a strong hearted individual indeed to see the difference between constructive criticisms and simple complaining. ..... Something to think about it next time you're electing officers.



    PS to Tombia - I totally agree that there is no reason a meet organizer with a group as large as ours can't drive a hard bargain and bring down costs for the membership by A LOT esp in this economy.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    High dollar National meets??!! $89.00 a night for folks that have tens of thousands invested in sheet metal playthings is pocket change. Personally, I think that the organizers have done a great job getting the $89 rate, I think the normal rate is $139.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I love Hudsons. Thats why I cannot stop buying them LOL I live in Canada to me HET is a car club end of story. Could care less what the membership and leadership do. Life is too short to worry over a $30 fee. I have met great HETer's and complete A-holes. I steer clear of the A-holes hang with the good people and it all seems to work out nice. When we had problems with WTN delivery to Canada I brought it up to Sam Jackson he got the problem solved right away. Seems to me to be ok car club.



    We ain't solving the worlds problems here just discussing nice old cars. Yup Old cars.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    russmaas wrote:
    Sounds like 2-3 people tick you off instead of 3600. Maybe you will was not strong enough to over come this. I suppose their is nothing wrong with retreating.



    Believe me, I am very thick-skinned. Most shiite doesn't bother me too much. I'm retired military, and have put up with WAY more BS and blame-gaming over way more serious shiite than you know. I was not impressed in the least by what the "leadership" had to say. Why support something that has no interest in taking views from DUES-PAYING members??? I view it not as a retreat, but thanks for your non-input though, Russ. Some things are not worth the time or trouble.



    Noticed that no one has really invalidated my points...hmmm.



    BTW, Park, Alex, and Richard - thanks for the answers to my initial question. See ya in '11, if you are coming to OKC.
  • Aaron D. IL
    Aaron D. IL Senior Contributor
    royer wrote:
    High dollar National meets??!! $89.00 a night for folks that have tens of thousands invested in sheet metal playthings is pocket change. Personally, I think that the organizers have done a great job getting the $89 rate, I think the normal rate is $139.



    I think we can get $70 a night and I think we need $70 a night precisely because we have spent tens of thousands in sheet metal..... playthings....no....playthings are cheaper. This is ancient transportation. Most of us were into old cars BECAUSE we didn't have any money. Now it has become a luxury to mess with old cars right under our noses....someone changed the rules of what is a luxury and didn't notify the rest of us.



    I think the Franklin club used to have their nationals on a college campus and therefore got the rooms dirt cheap....but then I dunno how much lack of luxury club members would tolerate in accommodations.



    at $89 X 6 days = $534 + tax (and maybe hidden fees). $181 in tours I chose to go on. $715. I'm sure I make it to $1000.00+ in gas food and incidentals easily. + any parts I'm lucky enough to get. I'm not complaining I chose to do this, and many would readily point out that it is cheap by vacation standards. But when you're starting out at 30 and that's more than half your savings like me. Two things won't happen, you won't see a lot of younger guys at nationals, and you won't see the ones who do show up, at every national. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    Aaron D. IL wrote:
    I think we can get $70 a night and I think we need $70 a night precisely because we have spent tens of thousands in sheet metal..... playthings....no....playthings are cheaper. This is ancient transportation. Most of us were into old cars BECAUSE we didn't have any money. Now it has become a luxury to mess with old cars right under our noses....someone changed the rules of what is a luxury and didn't notify the rest of us.





    at $89 X 6 days = $534 + tax (and maybe hidden fees). $181 in tours I chose to go on. $715. I'm sure I make it to $1000.00+ in gas food and incidentals easily. + any parts I'm lucky enough to get. I'm not complaining I chose to do this, and many would readily point out that it is cheap by vacation standards. But when you're starting out at 30 and that's more than half your savings like me. Two things won't happen, you won't see a lot of younger guys at nationals, and you won't see the ones who do show up, at every national. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.



    I remember going to the 2001 National in Seattle - Because plans were up in the air Cloyd (I went with Cloyd Steiner) and I made last minute reservations, on-line, at the host hotel for about $15 a night UNDER the club rate of $99 a night!!! Never did figure out that one!!



    I had a conversation with one of the organizers, who was quite upset that there were a number of us that booked that way. He spent a good 10 minutes explaining to me what went into figuring room rates - and I have tried, in the past (but not with Sam) to have an article in the WTN explaining how room rates are figured. One of the factors governing room rates, as I recall, is how much per square foot the hotel will charge for meeting rooms, club store room, banquet hall, etc. This governs what has to be charged per room. Yes, both of these are negotiated, along with other things, I think - like probably parking and flea market space.



    Now, after 8 years, if I've got this wrong, somebody correct me. I'm at that point in my life where there are times I forget where my front door is.



    In regards to 66patrick66's statements - the obvious solution, if you have an agenda, is to run for director. I think it would be an interesting position to have for a while - I just couldn't afford it. I have enough trouble coming up with enough money to get to a National; and then there's the getting there. It ain't easy for me to travel now, much less 2 or 3 years down the road.



    Hudsonly,

    Alex Burr

    Memphis, TN
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    66Patrick66, please do not paint me as one of those who's knowledge is limited or tainted. I spend some time each week working with folks who want to gain access to the Members Only Forum. Also, if you read my comments I am not limiting my comments to members only. Most of my comments were generally about Hudson folks and not simply members. I am also former military and spent some time as a Military Training Insturctor so as Kenny Rogers would say: I have learned when to hold them and when to fold them. At my age my vision statement is "If your not having fun, why are you doing what your doing?" If you would like I could give you a dozen reasons of why and what needs to change at the local level and I am sure if I spent enough time on them I could justify not being a member. I choose to look at the bright side of the issue and that is not only with members but also with those who are not members. I have been cheated by both at one time or another. I try to over look the bad and dwell on the good--as a mater of fact I think I will go fire up my 36 and take it around the block and see if the cops will stop me again. Driving on a milk crate without fenders, runningboards and a hood seems to get them fired up---I Love It!!!:eek::eek:
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Brownie, I don't know where you got the idea that I said or implied your knowledge was limited or tainted! All I said was that this forum is not the exclusive purview of the HET Club...it's for ALL Hudson enthusiasts. My comments about the HET part of this forum is simply that as a non-HET member, my feelings are not hurt in any way about not being able to access that part of this forum. It's for Members Only, and I have zero issues with that. One of those Club bennies that another person here implied I should not be concerned about having...



    And Alex, who knows? Maybe me being the HET Director might be a part of the future plans. I do not have an agenda, just ideas that would/could make the HET organization a better Club. The powers-that-be were not interested in hearing my ideas,and to me, that is their loss and the loss of what at the time was a very enthusiastic HET member - me! But, to be a Director, that involves vacation time from the job to attend the Nationals and a few Regional meets, and additional $$$ that I do not have with two teenaged sons at home.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    As a former national director and past chapter president, let me start by saying. The dues we pay to be a member barely covers the cost of printing and postage for the WTN, The national organization relies on the profits of the club store and a percentage of the national meet T-Shirt sales and other fundraisers. Local chapters pay for national meets. They have to sign contracts with the hotels, tour bus companies, caterers for the banquet, meeting rooms etc... The planning and arrangement with these companies start 5 years before the meet. Therefore, most places take a gamble on the price because they do not really know what the costs will be 5 years out. The local chapters have to pay deposits and also have to meet certain goals on room sales, number of people at the banquet etc. if the goals aren’t met the chapter has to pick up the tab. The chapters make their money back on, registrations, T-shirt sales banquet tickets and tours. If no one buys anything, the chapters end up owing several thousands.

    About the costs of the hotels, First off, the hotel has to be big enough to handle most of the members that are going to attend. Second, they have to be large enough to have several meeting rooms for board meetings, tech sessions, club store, memorabilia room, etc. Third you have to have a parking lot large enough to handle 300 to 400 Hudsons plus others driving brand x cars, also the parking lot has to have space for our Hudson vendors, not to mention motor homes and trailers. This alone would rule out your Super 6, mom and pop hotels. My wife and I consider the nation meet a vacation; I sure would not like to spend my vacation at a college dorm, sharing a bath at the end of the hall or at a run down hotel that I can get just because it is cheap.

    I saw you mention the Pittsburgh national. Paul and Stefi Schuster, Dave and Barb Best, Dave and Mitzy Solon, Ken Schulte, Fred Lorenz, the Gleaydura clan, Bill and Dot Walter, Bert and Noami Liston and many more I can’t think of at this time, spent hundreds of hours planning the meet, endless meetings with hotels, vendors and companies, that provided services to the meet. And you think that the 5 minutes it took you to tell them how you think the meet should be run, was a wasted effort. I think they did a great job.



    So if you want to go to the national as a non-member, remember it’s the people that are members that are paying you way.



    ENJOY!



    Joe Laurene
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Joe, I hear your words, but let me tell you one thing. In your last sentence, I understand what you are trying to convey, but I'm going to say this - I paid my way to the Nationals! As did every other attendee! The HET sets the event up, certainly, and Chapter dues make that happen. But, I'm paying my way, I pay to enter and attend whatever side events are going on, and I pay my entry fee. Period. And HET benefits from this, whether I am a member or not.
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    Having read all the above pages of posts thought I'd like to interject a few things here as I was sort of "present at the creation":

    The Club was run by what we referred to (being from Calif. at the time) as the "eastern power structure" - no one west of the Miss. R. held a National office for many years; now the Club is democratic. The granting of permission to have the 1st chapter, the So. Cal., came about as a result of dissatisfaction over the "old guard" arrangement, a subject I will not expound upon here.

    You now have a voice in the election of those who represent you, whether you have personality/ego clashes with them or not. Then ('60s) all business & elections took place at the National Meet - if you didn't attend, & they were all held back east, tough!

    The President then (now??) was a titular "head of state" & really didn't do anything exc. preside over the National Business Meeting unless an emergency arose - the success, rise & fall, of the Club was based on the functioning of the Treasurer & Editor.

    Ego(s) have, unfortunately, & are, an aspect of car clubs, their officers, leaders, etc. At the 1st National I attended, in the mid-60s, at Hamilton, Ohio, the town gave the Club trophies to be awarded as we saw fit. Several of us were picked (myself, Carl Weber, and another whose name I don't remember) to award them as we hadn't driven a Hudson. We gave the top award to an excellent completely original '37 T coach (cheapo) & 2nd place to a jazzy looking '35 H8 conv. because it's paint color wasn't correct, had '54 chrome wire wheels, & chrome plated dash panels. The '35 owner was so incensed he left the Club, started his own Club, the THE Club (which some of you old timers will remember), and subsequently went broke funding it! This is why the Club does not have judged meets (which some, trophy hunters, object to).

    I offer these thoughts of mine & not in criticism of those of you who've stated your feelings & thoughts in prior posts to this thread. Perhaps we can discuss some of these things at the National over a beer?
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    oldhudsons wrote:
    Having read all the above pages of posts thought I'd like to interject a few things here as I was sort of "present at the creation":

    The Club was run by what we referred to (being from Calif. at the time) as the "eastern power structure" - no one west of the Miss. R. held a National office for many years; now the Club is democratic. The granting of permission to have the 1st chapter, the So. Cal., came about as a result of dissatisfaction over the "old guard" arrangement, a subject I will not expound upon here.

    You now have a voice in the election of those who represent you, whether you have personality/ego clashes with them or not. Then ('60s) all business & elections took place at the National Meet - if you didn't attend, & they were all held back east, tough!

    The President then (now??) was a titular "head of state" & really didn't do anything exc. preside over the National Business Meeting unless an emergency arose - the success, rise & fall, of the Club was based on the functioning of the Treasurer & Editor.

    Ego(s) have, unfortunately, & are, an aspect of car clubs, their officers, leaders, etc. At the 1st National I attended, in the mid-60s, at Hamilton, Ohio, the town gave the Club trophies to be awarded as we saw fit. Several of us were picked (myself, Carl Weber, and another whose name I don't remember) to award them as we hadn't driven a Hudson. We gave the top award to an excellent completely original '37 T coach (cheapo) & 2nd place to a jazzy looking '35 H8 conv. because it's paint color wasn't correct, had '54 chrome wire wheels, & chrome plated dash panels. The '35 owner was so incensed he left the Club, started his own Club, the THE Club (which some of you old timers will remember), and subsequently went broke funding it! This is why the Club does not have judged meets (which some, trophy hunters, object to).

    I offer these thoughts of mine & not in criticism of those of you who've stated your feelings & thoughts in prior posts to this thread. Perhaps we can discuss some of these things at the National over a beer?



    Peter K... Great summary of the "Good 'ole daze" ;) I remember dem daze too... but like you I moved on and continued Hudson'in in my own way. Thanks for the memory jog. :rolleyes:
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    WW - yes, I too have a lot of memories of that period, some fond, some not so. I've now moved beyond the things that "festered" me, that I felt were the inadequacies or incompetence, of others I had to work with.

    I am glad to see, what I feel, is now a well & smooth running Club, with a very large loyal core of members. The Club provides a lot of service to it's members as well as a 1st class publication.

    I've had nothing to do with Club affairs for decades now but was, until recently, very active in a local chapter (treasurer & editor). I like to look back & feel I helped the Club over a "rocky" period & that it is now a democratic & well-functioning organization. It's growth in membership attests to that.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I have been a member of the national and MidSouth chapter HET club since I learned of it in 77 or 78. Did not try to get any changes made as a new member. After a few years was elected VP. In a couple more years Pres. While pres. suggested holding the National meet. We chose Nashville. No nice hotel or motel would even talk about a year ahead as they were all booked up for a year or 2. We looked at several places. The motel we chose had the room we felt would be needed at a resonable price. We had several chapter meeting to make plans and at the National put in our bib for the 99 meet. I think this was the first time a national had been awarded this far ahead. At the time we done this the motel was a very very nice & clean and upper class. We had looked it over good. We still met there for our planning. Then it sold to another company and started on its way down. No way could we find another place for the national and believe you me they were looked for but every thing was booked up in Nashville. In a year or so after the meet dozers cleared it all away.
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    Billy K.TN. wrote:
    I have been a member of the national and MidSouth chapter HET club since I learned of it in 77 or 78. Did not try to get any changes made as a new member. After a few years was elected VP. In a couple more years Pres. While pres. suggested holding the National meet. W e chose Nashville. No nice hotel or motel would even talk about a year ahead as they were all booked up for a year or 2. We looked at several places. The motel we chose had the room we felt would be needed at a resonable price. We had several chapter meeting to make plans and at the National put in our bib for the 99 meet. I think this was the first time a national had been awarded this far ahead. At the we done this the motel was a very very nice clean and upper class. We had looked it over good. We still met there for our planning. Then it sold to another company and started on its way down. No way could we find another place for the national and believe you me they were looked for but every thing was booked up in Nashville. In a year or so after the meet dozers cleared it all away





    Billy, a perfect example of Murphy's Law!!!! I do have to admit the place was a bit run-down, but I, myself, really didn't gave a damn!!! That it was hot is a given; that there was plenty of room for parking, also a given. What made it bearable was the fact that we had a place to get together with old friends and make new ones. And it sure gave conversations at later meets a boost!! :D



    A lot of folks don't realize this fact about the Nashville National - it was the first time that people with computers booked on-line. If I remember right the place was sold out in about a month after reservations were accepted. Lot of non-computer people were scratching their heads over that one. Now, of course, a lot of us routinely book on-line.



    Hudsonly,

    Alex Burr

    Memphis, TN
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Myself personally, my priorities in life don't lend themselves to spending a whole week and a thousand dollars at a car function, To me it was nice when you could plan on spending one day looking at the cars and talking to people. York Pa. in 1987 was the last I attended and I enjoyed it. 83 in Iowa City was nice as well as 81 in Milwaukee. All three were done in one day or so, Best part was the actual car car display on Sat. Amusing sidelight to this is that I was told by the Pittsburg fellow that I obviously did not know anything about Hudson Nationals to which my reply was that I had been going to Hudson Nationals, before he even knew there was a HET club.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    May I suggest to these few people who complain about the way the clubs are run and go in wanting to change things around stay long enough to prove your self. You might be supprised at what you can do. And to the ones always complaing about the meet locations and prices work on setting one up Sometime. Hope all who go enjoy the national next week in Mich. Guess my meeting days are over at almost 81 yrs and other problems. Sorry if I have steped on anyones toes.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Tom, you bring up a good question. When did the National meet switch to ending on a friday instead of a saturday?
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    My 1st Nationals were small affairs in small motels.

    We've now become so big, with so many people & cars wanting to attend, that as Billy K. says, they couldn't find anywhere else to switch to.

    There aren't many facilities in many locations in the country that can handle all the cars & have an area adjacent for our parking & swap meet! We've "shot ourself in the foot" due to success! It's all Sam's fault, LOL!

    An adjunct to that is that big places tend to be more high end = more expensive which some can neither afford or philosophically won't pay for.

    Why does this one end on Fri. - I'll bet because they raise their rates a lot for weekends?
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