Can Anyone help with info on this Essex Coach
Hello all,this is my first post here and i hope i have this in the right place,apologies in advance if not.
I'm hoping someone here will be able to provide me with some information about an Essex Coach,or at least point me in the right direction of someone/somewhere that might help.
Ok,a little backstory...while doing some family history research i stumbled on a car insurance certificate,for an Essex Coach my maternal grandfather owned,i think he lived and worked in the US for around ten years,between roughly 1923 and 1933.
The details of the car as given on the certificate are as follows:
Trade Name:Essex
Type:Coach
Motor Number:426998
Serial Number:401849
Plate Number:1084632
Year Built:1926
There is some other information on the certificate,date,price,address etc,to be honest i just jotted down what i took to be the salient facts about the car ,so i may well have missed something.If anyone wants to see the certificate i can post an image of it.
There are things i'm not sure of that perhaps you guys can help me with...in the UK(where i live)there is a central organisation (DVLA) to deal with all vehicles on the roads of the UK,where you can find previous owners,if the car is still in use etc,but as far as i'm aware,no such entity exists in the States on a national level.I believe this is done on a State by State basis.
The other main thing is plate numbers,is this the same as a license plate?
Bear with me,i'm from the UK
If so then i think i'm right in saying that in the States, plates can be kept when the car is scrapped,(whoops sorry,you guys say junked i think) and put on another vehicle,presumably if the vehicles match in plate category.
If this is right,then am i right in thinking that the car cannot be tracked that way?
I would love to think that the car is still around,but i know this is pretty unlikely.It was probably junked/parted decades ago,or is a pile of rust on someones farm or back lot
But on the off chance that it still exists somewhere,is there any way to trace it with the information given above?,or even trace it until it was junked,in the UK the DVLA has to be informed when a car is sold to a junkyard,i assume that this is also the case Stateside
I'm hoping someone here will be able to provide me with some information about an Essex Coach,or at least point me in the right direction of someone/somewhere that might help.
Ok,a little backstory...while doing some family history research i stumbled on a car insurance certificate,for an Essex Coach my maternal grandfather owned,i think he lived and worked in the US for around ten years,between roughly 1923 and 1933.
The details of the car as given on the certificate are as follows:
Trade Name:Essex
Type:Coach
Motor Number:426998
Serial Number:401849
Plate Number:1084632
Year Built:1926
There is some other information on the certificate,date,price,address etc,to be honest i just jotted down what i took to be the salient facts about the car ,so i may well have missed something.If anyone wants to see the certificate i can post an image of it.
There are things i'm not sure of that perhaps you guys can help me with...in the UK(where i live)there is a central organisation (DVLA) to deal with all vehicles on the roads of the UK,where you can find previous owners,if the car is still in use etc,but as far as i'm aware,no such entity exists in the States on a national level.I believe this is done on a State by State basis.
The other main thing is plate numbers,is this the same as a license plate?
Bear with me,i'm from the UK

If so then i think i'm right in saying that in the States, plates can be kept when the car is scrapped,(whoops sorry,you guys say junked i think) and put on another vehicle,presumably if the vehicles match in plate category.
If this is right,then am i right in thinking that the car cannot be tracked that way?
I would love to think that the car is still around,but i know this is pretty unlikely.It was probably junked/parted decades ago,or is a pile of rust on someones farm or back lot
But on the off chance that it still exists somewhere,is there any way to trace it with the information given above?,or even trace it until it was junked,in the UK the DVLA has to be informed when a car is sold to a junkyard,i assume that this is also the case Stateside
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Hello, Gully:
You have better centralized records in England than we do in the States. My understanding is that each state keeps records of its cars only just so long (after the cars are off the road), then gets rid of them...but every state probably has its own policies. I know of no centralized "death list" of junked cars.
Probably your best chance would have been to contact the fellow who keeps a list of all known surviving 1926 Essexes for our Hudson-Essex-Terraplane Club. The Club does have many such volunteer-run registries. Sadly, no one seems to have stepped up to the plate to keep the '26 Essex registry! So, I'm not sure where you go from here....0 -
Gully,
Was this car brought back to the UK or did your Grandfather just have it in the US? If brought back from the UK you used to be able to request from the DVLA a "previous keepers" list if you have the UK reg. no.
If not then I guess as Jon said then the chances have finding out information so far down the line is slim at least0 -
Not as far as i know,what i do know is that during his time in the States,my grandfather had married,but we know his wife died,the Great Depression was beginning,the banks in the town he lived in closed,i strongly suspect he sold the car,or possibly gave it away,he always was generous to a fault, and caught the next ship home to the UK.
It may be worth a check with the DVLA,but i don't remember any talk of such a car in the family and i would imagine that shipping such a beast across the Atlantic would cost more than he could afford.0 -
thanks for that.0
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The folks at the Hudson SuperSix group tell me the car was made in 1927.
Does anyone do the '27 registry?0
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