Need info on rear axle from 48 business coupe.

jjbubaboy
jjbubaboy Senior Contributor
edited November -1 in HUDSON
Hey all,

Wondering about the specs on a 48 rear axle. Like gear ratio, and wheel lug spacing. Curious about the feasability of a swap into a 36 T with one.

Can anyone help out with info?

Thanks!

Jeff

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  • jjbubaboy
    jjbubaboy Senior Contributor
    Thanks Ken!

    Thats about what I thought, and not the ratio I was looking for either.



    Jeff
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    Jeff, the carrier from '48 and later won't fit in the '36 housing, so you'll have to swap the entire assembly. I think you'll find the tread dimension just right, or only an inch or so too narrow, which you can fix with a 1/2" spacer on each side. I did a stepdown rear axle into a '38T in the olden days, and found it just 2" too narrow. Worked that with offset rims. But the '36 tread is narrower than '38, so it should be very close. Not too difficult, just reposition the spring perches, being careful to get the vertical angle of the pinion shaft the same as the transmission tailshaft (i.e., the two should be parallel). You'll probably want to find a 3.58 ratio carrier assy from a '51 with Hydramatic to replace the one that's in there now. Or, if you want a wider range of gear ratios, forget the '48-'51 axle and put in a Dana unit from a '52-'54. Job is the same as for the '48-'51 axle.
  • jjbubaboy
    jjbubaboy Senior Contributor
    Thanks Park!

    Yes, the 3.5 ratio area is where I would like to be and since swapping the whole assembly is WAY cheaper than the aftermarket R&P thats probably what will eventually happen.

    Jef
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    Bob Elton wrote an article in the September-October 1996 WTN entitled "Making the Terraplane a Highway Cruiser" in which he described iin detail, nterchanging a modern rear axle into his '37 Terraplane. He recommended '62 to '64 mid-sized Dodge and Plymouths (exactly same length axles as the '37) or mid-sized MoPars '64 through '70 (one inch longer axles). These used the same wheel bolt pattern as the Terraplane. I've also heard "nine inch Mustangs" will interchange.
  • I have posted several times about the stepdown to Terraplane swap. It's the OLD KISS principle. It fits fine. One been in my car for years. You will find that you will have a universal missmatch tho. 36 earlier is diff. than 37 and later,
  • jjbubaboy wrote:
    Hey all,

    Wondering about the specs on a 48 rear axle. Like gear ratio, and wheel lug spacing. Curious about the feasability of a swap into a 36 T with one.

    Can anyone help out with info?

    Thanks!

    Jeff
    Walt here. I would look into a Jet rear unit as they have all ratio from 3-31 to 4-11. It's a Dana rear and parts are still available from them. Walt.
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    tombia wrote:
    You will find that you will have a universal missmatch tho. 36 earlier is diff. than 37 and later,



    My recollection is that the u-joint change was made in '36, not '37. I remember my '36 had the same type as my Hornet.
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    '36 u-joints are first with U-bolts holding the joint to the flanges, and are same as all later ones. Jet rear axle would be too narrow for '36, and brakes would also be rather innefective compared to the Bendix on the '36. Probably wheel bolt pattern would be the same.
  • jjbubaboy
    jjbubaboy Senior Contributor
    Anyone got the Sept-Oct 96 WTN that would be willing to copy that article for me??:D

    Thanks

    Jeff
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    Jeff, all things considered, I think you'd be best off putting a '52-'54 Hudson (Dana/Spicer) axle assy under that car. Keeping it all Hudson makes life simpler when it comes to replacing brake shoes, wheel cylinders, etc., as you can get it all while staying in the Hudson parts resources community. By going with the Dana vs. earlier stepdown axle, you eliminate the "unobtainable wheel bearing" problem the earlier axles have. And there's a wide range of gear ratios available for the Dana, in case you're not happy with whatever you try first.
  • jjbubaboy
    jjbubaboy Senior Contributor
    Hey Park,

    Yes I do like the 'all Hudson' aspect the best. I havent decided firmly on anything yet but nice to know the 52-54's are a good bet.

    And yes the unobtainable bearing is not a good thing!

    Thanks as always and Merry Christmas!

    Jeff
  • Park, by my measurements the step down rear is 5 inches too narrow. How do you deal with that issue?



    Allan
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