HELP, HELP, HELP, I have Hudson Hornet questions!!!!

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edited November -1 in HUDSON
Hi,



I need some information about a certain Hudson Hornet. It is SN# 1776680 and is a Md# 7B. The car has an after market Edmund head and the carbs have these cute little scoop air cleaners on them not the typical Twin H-Power air cleaners. Was all this stuff stock and factory or was it added later. The owner says that it came from the factory that way. Please look at the pictures, and I am very interested in your opinions. Can you tell what options came from the factory by the SN# or do I have to look at something else.



Thanks,



BP

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  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    As far as I know, the serial number would not indicate this sort of thing.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    The head is period after market. A nice part. Getting hard to find if its in good shape. The air cleaners are the factory Twin-H BUT they have have been cut in half and turned sidways. Basically an old hack job. Too bad, they would be worth something as originals.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Bpappas wrote:
    Hi,

    I need some information about a certain Hudson Hornet. It is SN# 1776680 and is a Md# 7B. The car has an after market Edmund head and the carbs have these cute little scoop air cleaners on them not the typical Twin H-Power air cleaners. Was all this stuff stock and factory or was it added later. The owner says that it came from the factory that way. Please look at the pictures, and I am very interested in your opinions. Can you tell what options came from the factory by the SN# or do I have to look at something else.

    Thanks,

    BP
    The pictures are really pretty interesting. As the previous reply states the head is AFTERMARKET. Edmunds finned heads are highly collectable after market additions for Hornet engines. Polished these heads give a nice under hood bling... RIGHT VIC? Vic Z has a Hornet with a polished Edmunds head and Edmunds twin carb intake. The carbs and manifold appear to be the stock twin H installation and as said the original air cleaners have been cut down to fashion the custom scoop type air rams for each carburetor. Also noted the radiator is a later model mopar transplant and the block sports non 1952 paint. Blue is the color that Hudson painted the replacement engines it sold post 1955. Your engine serial number should be the same as the car if original. If it is not and is blank this could be a replacement engine. Again the later engine is desirable.

    Being a detail type I also noted the FOR SALE sign posted in the window... if the car is running and not to badly deteriorate (rusty frame for starters) you have found a really decent start for a Hudson restoration. Keep the group posted!

    Good Luck
  • onerare39
    onerare39 Expert Adviser, Member
    Here is what the factory air cleaners and aluminum head look like. It's a 1954 308. Those hack jobs look kinda cute though.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    The engine block # and the chassis # are the same,sooo it is the original engine for the car. So why the wrong paint on the engine? Did someone rebuild it and maybe hotrodded it a bit? Also the car is for sell. If anyone is interested please drop me a line at bryan.s.p@juno.com and I will send you pictures of the rest of the car. How much do you thing the head is worth?











    BP
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    Before you expect people to get too jazzed up over the car, in re selling it, you'd best let them know what body style it is as that makes a BIG difference in rarity ergo value.

    The value of the head would depend a lot on it's condition which probably could only be ascertained by taking it off the engine to determine it's condition as to 1. if alum. has been "eaten" 2. whether it has been milled too much to be able to "surface" it again.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Well the car is running so I don't think I will pull the head off this to see if it needs to be resurfaced. It is curious that the engine is the right engine for the car, but it is painted in a later color and has after market parts. This might be an indicator that it has be rebuilt.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    It is a four door, here are some pics of the car.
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    Price is a bit difficult to estimate on these four door sedans. When I bought mine the price was $800. Mine was mostly (that is of course a relitive term) rust free. I pulled the back fenders and replaced most of the outside metal. My pans and trunk were solid. My car was running but it did not have the Twin H, and did not have the Edmunds heads. My interior was almost like new and most of it, other than interior material in seats and so, was not restored. I opted for a "race car" style and ended up doing a full restoration and had close to 20 K in it when I was finished. A restored 52 sedan sells in the market of 20 to 30 K depending on your beyer? I would consider $2,500 a fair market value for a clean car such as this one but then you never know when someone wants one quite bad. It could go higher and also if a seller is badly in need of a sale it could go for less...





    Brownie,

    Petersen Historical Automobile Appraisals
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Thanks for the info. Are you afflilated with the Peterson Museum in Southern California?





    BP
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    No, I have known the folks out there for some time but they spell their name with an "o" and I spell mine with an "E". Most likely no link anywhere in the past. Also, they do not share their money with me.....
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    BUMMER. One both accounts.
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