Question on 29 Super Six

forjack842
forjack842 Expert Adviser
edited November -1 in HUDSON
Afternoon all,

Newbie here and on the verge of acquiring a 29 Super Six.



In all that I've seen and collected on the web over the last weeks the starter button appears to be on the far left of the dash. The seller is telling me that his is on the floor. I'm new to this car, this is my first very very oldie so may I ask someone in the know if this is true or is this a different model or year.



Thanks in advance,

Jack

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  • 37 CTS
    37 CTS Senior Contributor
    On the 29 Hudson the starter is on the floor.

    Far left on the dash is the radiator shutter control.
  • TwinH
    TwinH Senior Contributor
    Mine is not there currently,but on the 30 Essex Super Six the starter button

    is on the far left of the dashboard with the shutter control to its right. Are

    you looking at a Hudson or an Essex? Either way,best of luck,and welcome.:)
  • forjack842
    forjack842 Expert Adviser
    Outstanding!! Then this is a 29 Super Six. The Operators Manual I could lay hands on had a starter button on the left next to the shutter. This may be unique to the Essex. THe Owners Manual I downloaded was for the Essex but that's all I could find so far.



    Thank You all for your input. If its ok I'll be back to beg for more info as I start the process of bring her back to life.



    Thanks Again

    Jack
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    Again - are you looking at a Hudson or Essex. Both have the shutter controls on the far left, but the Hudson has the starter pedal in the centre of the floor, just in front of the gear lever.
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    You seem to be asking if your Hudson (or is it Essex?) Super Six is a 1929? The serial number would identify the year and make, if you'd like to post that.



    You said that you found a 1929 Essex instruction manual online. If you happen to be looking for a 1929 Hudson manual, you can find it here, along with a bunch of other Hudson, Essex and Terraplane literature: http://www.hudsonterraplane.com/tech/tech_index.htm
  • forjack842
    forjack842 Expert Adviser
    Geoff C., N.Z. wrote:
    Again - are you looking at a Hudson or Essex. Both have the shutter controls on the far left, but the Hudson has the starter pedal in the centre of the floor, just in front of the gear lever.



    Sorry I wasn't clear, I do not have the car in my possession as of yet. From the pics I have seen I do see a small roundish pedal about 8" or so from the floor just engine side of the gear shift. Hope to have it in my garage in a few weeks. Finalizing the last details and shipping.





    I think I attached a pic of the floor and part of the dash.



    Than ks

    Jack
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    yes, the pedal behind the gear shift lever is the starter.

    Best way to start it is to use the throttle lever in the center of the steering wheel whilst engaging the right foot to push the lever (it has a rather long throw so you must push your right foot down a ways). You may have to learn to adjust the spark advance whilst starting it too - once you get it down, it'll fire right up if in good tune.

    If it still has it's original vacuum tank you'll need to learn how & when to turn on the gas prior to starting also to avoid flooding.

    Much to learn, lots of fun!!!!!!!!!!
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    And just to confirm, it is definitely a 1929 Hudson, with a standard steel body (Hudson-built).
  • forjack842
    forjack842 Expert Adviser
    Gentlemen I Again thank you for your wise and experienced answers!



    I am indeed STOKED! I must admit its like Christmas Morning and I can't open up the best gift. I know what it is but I can't have it yet! Damn!



    Jack
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    Jack, one word of caution. Is the rest of the car in the same condition as the dashboard? Looks like a lot of rust (and in about the last place you'd expect to find such serious rust!).



    I don't mean to dampen your enthusiasm, but if the body is in bad shape and isn't a coupe, convertible or Biddle & Smart-bodied car (all of which bring good money), you may end up pouring way more into it than it's worth. (Again, this is true only IF the body panels are "gone", the frame is half rusted, etc. If only the dashboard needs work, then please disregard my words.)



    Nineteen twenty-nine was a great year for Hudson and the cars are of quality workmanship, and because of this there are quite a few in excellent condition still around, at not-unreasonable prices. The word of caution is this: that if the body needs extensive restoration and you are not a bodyman yourself, you could easily end up dropping thousands of dollars worth of bodywork into that car before you were even ready to repaint it. For not much more money, you can probably buy a very solid example of a '29 that's ready to drive, and then spend your time and money bringing it up to show-quality, even as you're enjoying it.



    I only say this because sometime folks who are new to the hobby, are sometimes dazzled with visions of "what might be", and start off with a car that will (in the end) suck up a huge amount of money and (more importantly) time. By the time they realize this, they may have way more money in the car than they can ever get back by selling it.



    Again, I don't mean to dampen your spirits, but I think it's only fair to pass along to you the downsides, as well as the upsides, of what you're about to embark on!
  • forjack842
    forjack842 Expert Adviser
    37 CTS wrote:
    On the 29 Hudson the starter is on the floor.

    Far left on the dash is the radiator shutter control.



    Jon,

    The body looks solid and all there. The car was redone about 5-8 years ago but the level of restoration is unknown yet. Rechroming of alot of the show surfaces was done and is still beautiful. Paint was soda blasted by someone. Painting was done by someone else and didn't know he had to properly wash down the car before applying primer and final coat. It pealed within days on the inside dash alot and some on the outside. The car was left at that point . So I have a restrip and paint job in my future for one. The rest of the car is much much better. The floor boards are said to be solid and virtually no rust anywhere. We'll see after it arrives.



    Let me get the car in hands and I'll post a bunch of pics. I'm kind of keeping it close to the vest til everything is finished. Just the cautious side of me here.



    That being said I have another question. Looking at the steering column end in the engine compartment I donot see the Clum Switch. I don't have sufficient pic of the parts boxes to be sure its in there. I'm wondering if any old stock or replicas is available.



    I can't put a pic in for some reason - script error-TYPICAL!



    Thanks

    Jack
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    For Hudson manuals and other 1929 Hudson material check out the Hudson On-Line Library @ http://hetclub.org/burr - at the moment it a list but will be a web site in the near future. In the meantime you can open files and down-load them as all are in PDF format.



    The website Jon directed you too, http://tinyurl.com/yuplr3 , contains most of the manuals that are on my site - but my site contains much more information.



    Hudsonly

    Alex Burr

    Memphis, TN

    http://hetclub.org/burr
  • forjack842
    forjack842 Expert Adviser
    hanks Alex Will do!!
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