Window Adhesive

cpr3333
cpr3333 Expert Adviser
edited November -1 in HUDSON
I just pulled the windshields and rear window out of my 'spare' 1950 Pacemaker brougham and there was no obvious sign of adhesive. Was the glass sealed only with the gaskets or did the adhesive just dry out over the last 60 years?



Also, the glass seems to be delaminating a bit around the edges. The gasket will cover it so it's not a cosmetic issue, but are there any saftey issues?

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Chris, There is no adhesive used used in sealing the rear window of your Hudson. In fact there is no adhesive used for sealing any of the windows of your car. asyou guessed they were sealed only with the gasket. As for delamination, that is what happens with glass thats 60 years old. Usually there is a certain amount of"fogging' around the edges as well. No safety issues with the rear window though. Those windows when they do go, shatter into tiny little cubes.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    What HUD says is so , I would add that personally I would never install a fixed window with out useing a sealer, usually some metal rusted away , better safe than sorry . If there is no cavity for it to fill it just squezzes out and wipes up BUD
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    Sorry to say, but you're both wrong - kinda :confused:
    Rarely will a rubber gasketed window not need some kind of help sealing around the pinchwelds.

    Yes, there is no "adhesive" to use...but, there is non-hardening sealer that is used with rubber seals specifically 3M 8509 Automotive Bedding and Glazing compound.
    is a flow grade liquid rubber polymer compound for auto glass installations and repair work.
    It remains elastic, adheres well to glass, metal and rubber surfaces and sets up as a permanent, flexible sealant.
    Apply with a standard caulking gun to fill any openings such as around clips in corners, or around setting blocks and backfilling operations on new gaskets.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Dan , What Chris asked was did the origional glass come with a sealer or just the gasket. The answer still remains no ,it did not come with sealer only the gasket. I've sealed plenty of Hudson stepdown windows and never used window sealer EXCEPT in the case of re-using an old gasket on the front windshield or the back glass. As a matter of fact the body manual for stepdowns reccomends to straighten any pinch welds before installing the windshield or back glass .Sealer is great stuff but it just didn't come origionally with any.
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    The glass may not have come with a sealer, but it sure neds it. When I got my '53 Hornet it had new windscreen rubbers fitted, and driving in rain it was wetter inside than it was out! I had to get a non-hardening windscreen sealant and completley seal right around to stop it leaking.
  • faustmb
    faustmb Senior Contributor
    I would add that while you have the glass out, new glass may be cheaper than you'd think. I had two new windows cut for my truck for $30 ea. For that money, I wouldn't mess with ones that already have signs of delamination or fogging.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Geoff C., N.Z. wrote:
    The glass may not have come with a sealer, but it sure neds it. When I got my '53 Hornet it had new windscreen rubbers fitted, and driving in rain it was wetter inside than it was out! I had to get a non-hardening windscreen sealant and completley seal right around to stop it leaking.



    Jeff, Maybe it depends on who made or supplied the new gasket. I personally haven't had to use any sealer with the new rubber gaskets I've installed but I would certainly respect your own experiences.. BTW my experience is limited to stepdowns.
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