Saw an Auction Listing

ArkieJazz
ArkieJazz Member
edited November -1 in HUDSON
Auction flier lists a '42 Hudson pickup and states that it was made from a car. From what I can see, the pickup looks real to me.

http://www.fowlkesrealtyandauction.com/auctions179.htm

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  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    If it is a "real" factory pickup then it's another very, very rare bird from Hudson. There were only 67 commercial models shipped from the factory in '42.



    I'd almost say it was a toss up as to which it is; considering that WWII cut off new car/truck shipments it is really quite possible that it's converted from a car. It comes down to what did you need at the time - if you needed a truck, about the only ways you were going to get one would be thru a used car lot or convert a car.



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  • 53jetman
    53jetman Senior Contributor
    Another consideration would be, Hudson actually made available the rear cab panel to enable a dealer to convert a sedan body to a pickup cab, and of course had the pickup beds available as well - if it was converted from a sedan, they would have had to use the short bed that were used on the short wheelbase pickups thru 1942.
  • bent metal
    bent metal Senior Contributor
    Well here goes. I don't think it was a factory truck. I don't think I've seen a Commodore truck. The trim should be "Super", thin. No stainless surrounding the windshield. I might be wrong about that. But if there is a Commodore truck around I'd like to see a picture. Also, it has drip rails. Only cars had drip rails, not trucks. The door is 'skirted' too. Trucks weren't like that. You might say "Maybe they changed the door?". But then there is the running board that matches the door. So I don't think so.



    By the limited pictures, the paint makes it look like it was done long ago. But I think it's advertised correctly. It's not originally a factory truck, it's a converted car. IMHO:)



    Plus the car bumper, but a lot people change that.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Steve: Have you checked with the Falks or Harry Faulke they might know this vehicle.
  • Clutchguy
    Clutchguy Senior Contributor
    bent metal wrote:
    Well here goes. I don't think it was a factory truck. I don't think I've seen a Commodore truck. The trim should be "Super", thin. No stainless surrounding the windshield. I might be wrong about that. But if there is a Commodore truck around I'd like to see a picture. Also, it has drip rails. Only cars had drip rails, not trucks. The door is 'skirted' too. Trucks weren't like that. You might say "Maybe they changed the door?". But then there is the running board that matches the door. So I don't think so.



    By the limited pictures, the paint makes it look like it was done long ago. But I think it's advertised correctly. It's not originally a factory truck, it's a converted car. IMHO:)



    Plus the car bumper, but a lot people change that.



    I agree with Bent Metal here. But one thing to always consider when dealing with the '42 model year. I have seen 2 or 3 Super's that had total Commodore trim from the factory. I asked my Dad about this and he said that the '42 models were mostly shipped out this way,all 2-3 months of them. He is currently finishing a '42 C6 that he purchased in Boston,'08
  • bent metal
    bent metal Senior Contributor
    Clutch guy wrote:
    I agree with Bent Metal here. But one thing to always consider when dealing with the '42 model year. I have seen 2 or 3 Super's that had total Commodore trim from the factory. I asked my Dad about this and he said that the '42 models were mostly shipped out this way,all 2-3 months of them. He is currently finishing a '42 C6 that he purchased in Boston,'08



    Ok, now that you mention it I have seen some cars from 1942 that looked like the trim was mixed up with Commodore and Super on the same car. My guess on this truck is that it was converted back when it was new. Not by the factory but probably from the dealer. Like "53Jetman" suggested. Which would make the auction claim correct and make sense that the paint looks old and the back of the cab piece looks so right on there.



    I think if I were to have this truck I'd change the doors and running boards to typical "truck" style. Then it would be a truck, to me anyway.:)
  • Lee ODell
    Lee ODell Senior Contributor
    I bought some very good 47 Super 6 front fenders for my 47 PU. I thought the fenders were interchangeable. Close exam of where the fender, body and running boards meet, there is a difference. The fenders are stamped differently because of the flared parts of the body that matches the door flares and running boards. So much for assuptions on my part.



    For a car/pu conversion, just changing doors and running boards would not be enough. The flared body part would need to be removed and fenders replaced or reworked. Or rework the flare to blend into the door. Don't know how that would look, good or bad.



    Just sharing some learning experience. Have a good day. Lee
  • ArkieJazz
    ArkieJazz Member
    When I opened the listing and photo the 2nd time, I do see that the passenger side door is not correct for pickups. That could be due to collision or rust damage repair at some point and the lack of available correct parts. The hood ornament is definitely not Commodore. The '42 Commodore hood ornament was a beautiful clear plastic fin mounted in a chromed base. Needless to say, this particular pickup would require close up inspection to correctly determine it's lineage.
  • bent metal
    bent metal Senior Contributor
    Hudson308 wrote:
    They sold a fair number of those rear cab panels for conversion, Bender. You'd figure during the war this would be a good way to get a "newer" pickup when none were available. Calling these conversions "Factory" would be a stretch, but "Dealer Installed" would certainly apply to many of them.



    I think your right. I'd like to see this truck in person, or atleast more pictures. Interesting.:)
  • 53jetman
    53jetman Senior Contributor
    ArkieJazz wrote:
    Auction flier lists a '42 Hudson pickup and states that it was made from a car. From what I can see, the pickup looks real to me.

    http://www.fowlkesrealtyandauction.com/auctions179.htm



    Just looked at the picture of the truck again, and it was definitely "built up" from a Super Six car. The trim that I see in the picture is correct for a Super Six.

    The pickup box does not appear to be standard Hudson style, as the rear fenders attached to the box differently on this truck.
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