36 T fender needed

dave s
dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
edited November -1 in HUDSON
I need right front fender for 1936 Terraplane with side mount , or else someone to make me pattern for cut out for tire well. :)

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  • Unknown
    Unknown
    hi dave,ive got one,bit rough,only trouble is its in australia!if you have a way of getting it to the usa cheap,you can have it in exchange for any unwanted 36 parts,lets make a deal! it is probably too expensive to ship though,however,thought id let you know,cheers,skip
  • Ol racer
    Ol racer Senior Contributor
    Dave,

    Suggest dealing with Skipster for the hard to find Spare tire mounting Brackef that attaches to the frame (if he has it), then ask him to trace the fender 'pocket' outline on a pc of light cardboard for you. The fender cutouts Ive seen are all ate away but looks simple enough for you guys to fabricate in a good fender using the bracket as a 'key reference point'. The pocket just drops down then welded onto lips bent down from the fender with a bottom drain hole. Its out of sight and ez to fab

    I am contemplating installing one on my '37 Hudson 8 but make the pocket larger to accept a wider mag wheel.[/I]
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    skipster wrote:
    hi dave,ive got one,bit rough,only trouble is its in australia!if you have a way of getting it to the usa cheap,you can have it in exchange for any unwanted 36 parts,lets make a deal! it is probably too expensive to ship though,however,thought id let you know,cheers,skip



    Thanks, Skip,

    Actually, I already have fender that is a little rough, but repairable. I need patern for cut out for tire well.
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    Ol racer wrote:
    Dave,

    Suggest dealing with Skipster for the hard to find Spare tire mounting Brackef that attaches to the frame if he has it, then ask him to trace the fender 'pocket' outline on a pc of light cardboard for you. The fender cutout looks simple enough for you guys to fabricate using the bracket as a key reference point. The pocket just drops down then welded onto lips bent down from the fender with a bottom drain hole

    I am contemplating installing one on my '37 Hudson 8 but make the pocket larger to accept a wider mag wheel.



    Chuck, I have spare mounting bracket that attaches to frame, and rough fender without well.
  • Ol racer
    Ol racer Senior Contributor
    Dave, Your there, Bolt the bracket to frame to get a reference point to cut. Cut ez then fit the spare down into the fender and you will see where you need to cut and bend more to your liking , It would be ez'r with a tracing but can be done without. Nice thing you can work the rough fender back into shape because they are thick. I would rather cut out a rough fender than a good one,

    Another thing those yr front fenders always crack around the wheel openings, so I go to Lowes for 5/16 dow Rod and Tac weld rod inside the fender lip curviture all the way around then bend toward the grill adding a lot of strength to lean over the fenders etc.

    Are you keeping the 212 or updaing.
  • Richard E.
    Richard E. Senior Contributor
    Contact Bent Metal, on this forum. He installed the "pocket" in my '36 T fender. Perry Spring II, he is listed in the HET Roster, in Ontario, CA.
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    Thanks guys. I have enough to go on for when I get to that part. Right now, it is in so many pieces, I don't know where we will start, but I figure getting fenders done and put aside is good starting point.
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    Just don't do what a fellow I dealt with back in the 1970's. Back around 1973, 1974 or so, I went up to Johnny Monroe's huge junkyard outside of Rockland, ME, looking for Hudson parts. (The yard has long since closed). Found a few parts - way the back, half submerged was a Model A Ford town car with two welled fenders. Fenders were about only thing left that was good. I bought 'em for $75 for the pair.



    Couple days later fellow shows up at my house wanting to buy the fenders for an A town car he's restoring. So I says to meself, I toss $400 at him and see what happens. Guy whips out a check book, writes me out a check for $400 and says he'll be back the following weekend, so the check will clear, with another $400 in cash. He thought I mean $400 for each. Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeese Louise!!!!!!!



    He could have had a pair fabricated for less than $400 back then.



    Hudsonly,

    Alex Burr

    Memphis, TN
  • barrysweet52
    barrysweet52 Expert Adviser
    I have for sale a spare tire bracket that bolts on the chassis, and also the long rod and bracket to hold the spare wheel. Also part of the spare wheel cover. Im not sure of teh year buts its around 1934 to 36. Can send photos etc. Hetozhudson@gmail.com Drop the het.
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    FYI, make sure it is for Terraplane AND NOT Hudson, as they are different and not interchangable.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Dave, I just learned of a very good unrestored 36 Terraplane sedan in Long Island for sale. If interested, call me and I will put you in touch with the right people.



    Allan Minard
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    Thanks, Allan,

    I sent you PM.
  • bent metal
    bent metal Senior Contributor
    I don't know how original you are trying to get with this side mount pocket. But just in case you don't already know, it's all the brackets that go through the side of the cowl and under the pocket that will be the difficult stuff to locate. ... IMO :) Unless of course, you are not worried about being exactly original.



    Richard E. here on this forum knows all about this job. What will work, what won't, and what everything looks like. When I did his car I just did what he told me to do. :)



    Here it is.
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    Thanks, I do have all original brackets and very rusty pattern for cut out. Pictures are good help. I am glad to hear there is someone on forum that has done one.
  • Richard E.
    Richard E. Senior Contributor
    Bent Metal is too modest. Here is what the finished product looks like. I am sure that it would be mistaken for a Hudson factory job!!
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    Beautiful job. I will be in touch with you, once we get started on fender cut out. You can both be proud of it.
  • Richard E.
    Richard E. Senior Contributor
    I understand that there is a place in Los Angeles that sells "pockets" for side mounted spare tires and they are supposed to have them to fit Hudsons. However, they are all different for Hudson. In '36 the Hudson pocket differs from the Terraplane pocket and as such are not interchangeable. The '34 and '35 pockets are different than the '36 and I am sure that '37 is also different.



    Bent Metal took the pocket out of an unuseable '36T PU fender that I had purchased, cut a hole in my (perfectly good) fender and then installed the PU pocket per the way Hudson had done it at the factory. As you can see he did a beautiful job. I would recommed that you find a '36 truck fender and remove the pocket as I did. The PU fenders are all trashed, although Howard Douglas (on this forum) restored a PU using all the original parts. He also produced a drawing of all of the parts and how they fit together, which I, or he, could provide you with. There are more parts than you think.



    I actually bought a '36T PU on Ebay, that resembled compost. I had the guy torch off all of the sidemount hardware and ship it to me. I let him keep the truck. Total cost, $60 plus shipping. It took me a while to get it all apart and reconditioned, but I was able to salvage all of it. Also there is left and right to many of the hardware pieces.



    Let me know when you get started, I will be happy to help!
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    Thank you, I will be in need of your help. I do have, what I think is original rusty pocket, mounting bracket and hardware, that I can use for pattern and a lead on pair of excellent front fenders without pocket.:)
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