262 linkage

Aaron D. IL
Aaron D. IL Senior Contributor
edited November -1 in HUDSON
I've just put a 1949 262 in my Pacemaker with a standard carb. Now maybe this is just a function of the fact that I've only ever owned short WB Hudson's but the linkage seems overly complicated to me.... lots of extra return springs and coils at the joints and an adjuster or 2 and it all seems to put more tension on the linkage (at least when trying to move it by hand)



My question is, what is the function of all those coils and springs? Or is it a lot of extra linkage associated with something like a car equipped with DriveMaster / Vacumotive Drive? Should I simplify it ? Should I leave it alone and if so what adjustments are on the linkage?? The manual isn't real detailed about the linkage.



Any info would be helpful... thanks.

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  • hudsonguy
    hudsonguy Senior Contributor
    Aaron D. IL wrote:
    I've just put a 1949 262 in my Pacemaker with a standard carb. Now maybe this is just a function of the fact that I've only ever owned short WB Hudson's but the linkage seems overly complicated to me.... lots of extra return springs and coils at the joints and an adjuster or 2 and it all seems to put more tension on the linkage (at least when trying to move it by hand)



    My question is, what is the function of all those coils and springs? Or is it a lot of extra linkage associated with something like a car equipped with DriveMaster / Vacumotive Drive? Should I simplify it ? Should I leave it alone and if so what adjustments are on the linkage?? The manual isn't real detailed about the linkage.



    Any info would be helpful... thanks.



    Aaron,



    Glad to hear your Pace has it's new heart in place!



    Hudson308 and I had a discussion once about how there must have been a entire design group at Hudson whose job it was to add as much complexity to the early stepdown throttle linkage as possible. Or like you pointed out, it might have been for Drivemaster's sake.



    Either way, I'd vote for simplifying it. I tried to restore this linkage assembly on mine, and was never able to get it to return to a good idle 100% of the time. There were just so many points of movement, and all it takes is a little wear at any of those points, and it might hang up. A strong return spring would take care of it, but your right leg will not like it on long drives.



    Good Luck,

    Doug
  • Aaron D. IL
    Aaron D. IL Senior Contributor
    Thanks for the response. I was looking at it yesterday and the overdrive manual and thought that maybe '48-'49 Hudson's has the overdrive kickdown switch on the linkage instead of under the pedal. The solonoid has 4 posts on it instead of 2 like my '50... and a 3 prong plug that attaches to them. The OD relay have 6 instead leads instead of 4 like mine. So maybe I can simplify the linkage. .... It goes around the oil filter and it has to mate to my Pacemaker pedal which is a little different.
  • kamzack
    kamzack Senior Contributor
    Take a look at "Lokar Performance Products". They've been mentioned here before and they do make a quality product. Would make it real simple.

    Kim
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    On my 66 GMC truck I used a Lokar Cable system. Got rid of all the linkages and down to one throttle cable. Super clean look and nice function. Maybe a little to high tech for a Hudson but they have more traditional linkages that you can make yourself a clean install with.
  • hudsonguy
    hudsonguy Senior Contributor
    Hudson308 wrote: »
    Must have been a phone/email discussion, Doug... this is the only thread I could find.



    As I recall, Jerre, it was an old fashioned face to face discussion. Like they all used to be! I think it must have been at a Back to the 50's weekend, or a Hudson meet.



    Anyway, Aaron, for what it's worth, I looked at a spare '49 Commodore (with OD) floor pan I have last night, and the kickdown switch IS mounted under the pedal like the later models.
  • Aaron D. IL
    Aaron D. IL Senior Contributor
    Well I went ahead and simplified the linkage.. looks cleaner, less springs and more easy to adapt to my Pacemaker pivot bracket on the firewall.

    My mistake on the kickdown switch being on the linkage.... I looked at the overdrive manual again and caption to the pic that shows that says "for a Packard" Some other companies shared the same OD I guess and adapted it different ways.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    308:

    Did you decide not to run the aluminum head? I looked back at a previous post and saw one on your yellow block. How about another pic straight on(from the front) of the linkage. Thanks, Bob
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