Am I old fashioned?
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I sincerely hope you are not referring to me an my incessant questions.
I am thrilled by the helpfulness of the club and those in the forum. Without the support, I would most likely be pulling my hair out. So thank you again to all of you who have helped me and please consider helping me again as I will definitely need it.0 -
I always try to say thanks and show appreciation for the advice im given,sometimes people forget that there is another person on the other side of the world giving their time and expertise freely.Good point Geoff,and yes ,you are old fashioned.
However,Keith Richards is probably older than you.0 -
Geoff, I always thank you and others for the advice given here.
Cheers!0 -
Most definitely old fashioned...And thats a GOOD thing,to be worn like a
badge of honor. As another that treasures your advice,I look forward to
meeting you someday to share some of the pitfalls you have and will help
me avoid whilst getting my 30 Essex back on the road... Thank You!0 -
Know whatcha mean Geoff , there are those like yourself who I have witnessed spend countless hours resolving even the most difficult things , expecting nothing more than a simple "THANKS GUY" . Then there are a very few who just don't get it . So OK, we'll all do what we can for them anyway , LEAD BY EXAMPLE . And your one of the leaders . BUD0
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Geoff C., N.Z. wrote:I remember when the words "Please", "Thank you" and "Appreciate help" were used. Seem to have gone out of fashion now.
Geoff,
As we get more advanced through technology, I think we become less personal...we tend to forget there is someone getting the information to us.
Entering my 30th year teaching in the U.S., I have noticed fewer and fewer 'nice words' as time goes on. Young people (and older, too) need to be reminded about 'please and thank you'. Our school district even has these 'Character Traits' as part of our curriculum-Honesty, Responsibility, Respect and Courage-as subtle reminders to our students each day.
So...to all those who give such great information on this forum and in the Club--THANK YOU!!! I know I never would have completed (although it seems it is never complete) my '30 Essex without their help.
And Geoff, I agree with others, you ARE old fashioned...but there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!!!!
Joe D.0 -
I sure thank you and I am thankful that you are on the HET forum Geoff.
I was raised and even read stories about having good manners as a kid. I'm not sure parents do that so much anymore. Even when I've been in other countries I've made it a point to learn to say "thank you" in their language. I agree with Joe too I think some of it is a side effect of modern communications. Most of it is not malicious, just thoughtless. Doesn't make it right though.
From a more spiritual perspective though I try and offer assistance even if I don't get a thank you. Makes sense if you believe in karma or the golden rule.0 -
Thank You GEOFF and I know you won't answer "No Problem"0
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Geoff, you certainly are old fashion, your a Kiwi. ( Time for me to have a dig at you for a change.)LOL, Yes I agree, not much appreciation for some of the things we do in all walks of life.
Amazing, when I hold a door open for someone in the shopping center and they just walk through, no, thank you kiss my foot, NOTHING.0 -
Huddy42 wrote:Geoff, you certainly are old fashion, your a Kiwi. ( Time for me to have a dig at you for a change.)LOL, Yes I agree, not much appreciation for some of the things we do in all walks of life.
Amazing, when I hold a door open for someone in the shopping center and they just walk through, no, thank you kiss my foot, NOTHING.
Huddy42, I hold the door open quite often for young and old alike. I'll be 67 in August, and for the most part I get a thank you. Sometimes I get nothing, so what I started doing is after they pass through the door without a word I just say "you are welcome". Some of them just keep walking and others turn around and give me a look. My wife says honey you shouldn't say that, I will say it anyway. Richie.0 -
Yup, old fashioned. You probably need to check your text messages for the kind words
My kids will text me instead of talking in the same room.
It struck me odd that their english books have a brief section on "Smilies" and "text acronyms"... lol
I like old fashioned, keep it up!0 -
I saw a little poem a long time ago that Ive never forgotten about manners
..this thing I know to be true,
When a man helps his wife getting into the car,
One or the other is new.0 -
You can choke a lot more cats with cream than vinegar! a simple thankyou can open doors and make new friends.Geoff has a really good point,the first world seems to be being taken over by impoliteness,and its easy to be drawn into new social behaviours without realising it.
Our ancestors developed manners as an evolutionary survival skill to enhance co-operation,it would be a real shame to lose all that in the space of one generation.0 -
We drive "old fashioned" cars too!!0
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I have noticed this as well. Why just last night I was at a local Tex Mex fast food place and I opened the door and a young couple came out, then another and another--about ten in all-I was starting to feel like a doorman. One or two said thanks but the most of them just walked on. A small and very sweet six year old stopped at my feet, looked up and said: "Thank You, Grandpaw." I must admit that it brought a deep smile to my face. Much like when I visit my local Air Force Base. I am impressed at the manors that each and every Airman shows to my wife and I. I would say that this is one of the good parts about being old--that being the respect given by those in everyday activities. Yes, it is Old Fashioned... But, that is the way it should be!!!0
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skipster wrote:You can choke a lot more cats with cream than vinegar! a simple thankyou can open doors and make new friends.Geoff has a really good point,the first world seems to be being taken over by impoliteness,and its easy to be drawn into new social behaviours without realising it.
Our ancestors developed manners as an evolutionary survival skill to enhance co-operation,it would be a real shame to lose all that in the space of one generation.
Some people historically argued that being polite is lying because it is people covering up how they really feel and not saying what they really think. But the French playwright Moliere argued that manners are neccesary to preserve social discourse because if we really said everything we were really thinking on impulse... we'd be at eachother's throats fighting.
At any rate just because skipping such formalities in the name of being breif is part of modern living doesn't mean we have to go along with it. Not everything needs to be thrown out wholesale simply because it's "old fashioned". Some things are timeless because they work... manners is one of them.0 -
It's funny because I just send some thanks following my "New member" topic. And I was wondering if I had to do it personaly member by member or to use the reply form. And after,I found this topic here. Anyway, just in case you did not read it in the new member topic, I just want to thank you all for the warmth Welcome I was given after my arrival in the forum. I hope I will have more time to come by because you are the most interesting group of them all and you say what you have to say. And I am quite Old Fashioned myself. I think it's better to be Old Fashion than... nothing. Every time I hold a door and people seems surprise I just say: "I am sorry, it's my mother's fault...!" And they put a big smile in their face. 0
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I to am to all thats been said,Thanks to all and Hudsonly Rudy and the Local Hud Nuts.
We try to Thank all of the Service Men and Ladies even to the point of paying there Eating bill some times at the local Food est.
They sometimes dont know who paid the tab but makes us feel good.
Thanks for all of YOU0 -
Good manners will never be old fashioned. The people that don't use them are the rude ones and are usually part of the self entitlement age where they have been taught to take all they can while never giving up anything. I even had a Lady ( in her 40s/50s) get mad at me when I held a door for her. She asked me if she looked like she needed someone to open the door for her. I just smiled and said "have a good day" and walked on. If I see her in the future I will still hold the door for her. Because she has no manners doesn't mean I have to lower my standards to hers.
Bob0 -
Geoff,
Anyone with that spelling of his name can not be old fashioned. I've read and enjoyed your articles in WTN as well as you contributions here and I would like to issue you a big THANK YOU.
Geoff Blake0 -
Okay, I know it's not a "Hudson" topic, but thanks for your input. I just think that we need to keep in mind that although we don't know each other we need to remember that we are all human beings, and need to give and receive mutual respect and grace. The number of times I see, and receive, requests like "I need such and such", without so much as a please, or acknowledgement after receiving help makes me think we take each other too much for granted. Now I've had my gripe, my best wishes to everyone.
Geoff.0
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