33 T8 engine questions

faustmb
faustmb Senior Contributor
edited November -1 in HUDSON
Between spending time with my dad last week and the cold snap this morning I was inspired to spend some quality Hudson time in the basement today. One of the tasks was to get back to stripping the 33 T8 engine. A few questions;

1) a few of the lifters are stuck. What is the best way to remove stuck lifters? They are well oiled and operate freely, but are stuck in the block.
2) What is the safetest way to remove the camshaft? After the lifters are out, this is the only majot component left in the block. It does rotate but it feels sticky...

Thanks,
Matt

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  • faustmb
    faustmb Senior Contributor
    OK, so tapping the lifters up with a small driver took them out fine. Still a little hesitant to pull the cam. Ideas / advice?
  • Uncle Josh
    Uncle Josh Senior Contributor
    Rotate the engine so bottom is up so you can see what you're doing, start easing it out, support the back end with one hand and ease it thru the succesive bearings.

    'Nothing should ever be done for the first time'
  • faustmb
    faustmb Senior Contributor
    No luck yet, would anyone be willing to post a pic of the correct puller for this?

    Thanks,
    Matt
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    If you have all the lifters out there is nothing else holding the camshaft in. It could just be tight in the bearings. Try inserting the front bolts in the flange and pulling with a pair of vice-grips whilst turning the camshaft. The back of the shaft is likely to fall downwards as it comes out of the bearing, and the cams will catch on the bearings, so do be careful that you don;t force anything or you will damage the babbit bearings.
  • faustmb
    faustmb Senior Contributor
    Thanks for the advice guys. I tried a small slide hammer but still no luck. I'll have to recruit some help and give it another go.
  • Uncle Josh
    Uncle Josh Senior Contributor
    I just got the camshaft our of my 39 eight. Had to push all the valves out with the adjusters and various wrenches sidewise for 'bait'. Two of them came out with the guides. So I guess it's new guides and mostly new valves.

    After all the lifters were out, the camshaft was still stuck in there. It looked like the rear bearing had rotated, torn out the keeper hole, and backed out of the block about 1/4 inch and I think there was a ridge on the bearing holding the shaft in.

    Gentle prying with a bar started the rear bearing and shaft out, and thankfully the OD of the rear bearing is smaller than the OD ff the other bearings. I then pulled the bearing off the shaft with a small puller. I'll have to rotate the bearing, drill a new oil hole and keeper hole, and grind a new oil groove for the new oil hole.

    Now I wish my broken studs were out. Keep after it.
  • faustmb
    faustmb Senior Contributor
    Boy, I feel pretty lucky after all that :) This engine was well lubricated and so far came apart pretty well. The stuck lifters came out with a few taps. I'm still learning a lot of this, so I go slow to try to avoid expensive mistakes.

    Thanks again for the tips!

    Matt
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