1947 Hudson Truck ID
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Greetings and great to see this forum. The head of my local Hudson club referred me to this site as I'm trying to learn about 46/47 Hudson trucks. I'm contemplating purchasing one locally and wondered what these trucks were called, whether there were different models or levels and what parts are available for them, in particular seals, mouldings and other parts. In addition, if anyone had a place to see detailed photos of an original truck to compare this one to.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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I have restored 3 Hudson Trucks but still not an authority. They are called just that 'a Hudson Truck'. Most Dealers had one to drive on Service Calls. I like to say they were the fore runner of ElCamino & Ranchero with car front and truck rear, but unlike Brand X that only had car rear suspension, Hudson was really a beefy 3/4 Ton Truck.
Restoration Rubber Parts can be obtained from K Gap, a Supplier in Ca. and all mechanical parts can be obtained from numerous sources. If buy the Truck, I suggest joining the HET Worldwide Club and recieve the Bi Monthly WTN Magazine having names of new & used parts Suppliers, many articles on restorationS, and a lot LOT more Info...0 -
You will find most parts in the truck are common to the car line. They were called the Cab Pickup . And in pre war models the longer truck was called a "Big Boy". However in 46-47 only the long truck was available .The truck in 1946-47 was basicly on the longest car frame 128"wb.And had 3/4 ton suspension . The six was the only motor offered and the trim spartan. Seat was a basic flat bench unlike the cars. However the dash and front sheetmetal was basicly all Hudson car stock. The inner door panel was also just a flat panel, unlike the car. The doors and fenders were shaped different where they neared the running board. So are not realy interchangeable unless you are desperate and creative. It is hard to find a "Stock Truck" to look at for comparison. But there are a few around. Here in our local there is a son of a former Hudson dealer that has one. Over the years people tend to put shiny pieces on thier trucks . And its easy because with the Hudson most of them fit,
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Thabnks for the advice. The truck I'm looking at only has one taillight and no side trim low on the fenders. It does have a radio, though. Straight body, no rust.0
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Trucks were very plain unlike the Hudson Cars, No Chrome and had one tail light like many trucks back then. Many Truck Owners easily retro fit turn signals and two tail lights for safety.0 -
Thanks again to everyone for their information. I've made an offer and we'll see how it goes. Sorry, I was so involved with looking the truck over that I didn't take any photos, but if it goes through, I'll be taking a bunch. Fingers crossed.0
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Good luck with the offer Dave, if you get it you'll love it. As others have said join a local Hudson chapetr and also HET. There are a lot of great people here and in the clubs.0
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hudson made around 5000 of the 46 and 47's. and I think almost every one was saved, even the crashed ones because they where different. you will have no problems finding parts. if it was a pre-war hudson truck (except 37's) there was very few of them built, so truck only parts are harder to find. i've had a whole bunch of 46-47 models, and got parts very easy when needed. EBAY has almost everything, KGAP for new rubber/decals/etc. guy on EBAY sells great new glass in any color or shade. only problem will be If you want perfect factory correct upoholstery, that is not made for early hudsons. new floorpans on EBAY. repo tailgates from Glenn in Utah. he also has many parts for trucks. tailgate hinges from a willy's jeep pickup from the late 40's early 50's. they are the same and easy to find. EGGE machine and suppliers in the WTN hudson club magizine have all the mechanical rebuild parts.0
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Wanted to follow through on the truck I'm trying to buy........
My initial offer was turned down, as the seller would not set a price, and I've since asked if he would let me know what he wants and I'll see if I can meet him there. There seems to be another person in the mix, even though I understood when I looked at it that only one other person had shown any interest in buying it (the truck is not "for sale")and they didn't follow through for some time. If you've ever bought an old car, you know what I mean. I'm waiting for a call back on Thursday to let me know what is up.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years (having been raised on Model A's and VW's) is that you can't get too attached to anything, and that there's more out there.
If this one doesn't pan out, I'll still be looking for a nice 46 or 47 Hudson truck.
Thanks again to all for your information, advice and support. I'll be around.
Dave0 -
Greetings again to all. I'm still going back and forth with the owner.
This 1947 Hudson has been sitting outside for a number of years (last tag is 2006) and looks like it has not run recently. The clutch pedal has no hydraulic pressure (goes to the floor) and the brakes need help as well. The body is straight and was painted some 15 to 20 years ago. I wouldn't repaint it, but it's not perfect, as there are chips in the passenger side fenders from other cars' doors and some fade on the top. The only rust in the truck was in the passenger foot well and was patched fairly well. It needs windshields, as the laminate has gone bad in the sun. Everything is there except the hood scripts, sun visors, small dash pieces, interior (meaning door panels and headliner and mat(s) and the original seat, which has been replaced by something more comfortable than the original. Straight bed, needs wood, though. Running board mats are so so. The engine (a twin carb Hornet engine according to the owner, but I don't know how to ID it). Several pieces of the grille need straightening. It has both bumpers.
My question is, can anyone give me an idea of what this is worth?0 -
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If its a pretty solid Truck and runs Decent would be my most important requirement if just looking for a 'driver truck'.
The things like brakes, clutch, and dings can be fixed.
The clutch pedal just dropping to the floor could be linkage came apart or missing spring
Grill Stainless can be easily straightened (but many nice used pieces are out there available)
Windshield is Flat Glass and can be cut at any local glass Company inexpensively (I install Tinted)
A plus is a Hornet Mtr and a rear bumper.
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Dave-
Pictures are really worth a thousand words. Folks here on the board can better nail down a "fair" price and evaluation with a few photos. Get some digital pictures and we can get them posted here for you if necessary.
Sounds like a good truck from your description. As Rick said, the Twin-H and possible Hornet motor is a plus. Also sounds as though this truck hasn't received much TLC in the last few years and that's one of the fastest ways to get old tin deteriorating rapidly. A few years is much better than decades, though!!
The point you brought up about not being emotionally attached is a sound one ( I know too well!). Remember, there's quite a few '46-'47 PU's out there and if that's what your heart is set on, then I'm sure there's one with your name on it.
Good Luck and keep us posted!!
Russell0 -
Hi Dave
Lee O'Dell here. I've been following your post with interest. I hope you get the truck. I see you live in Pasadena. I live close by in Burbank. Give me a call if you would like to look at my truck to get a comparison of condition and what I paid for mine. It sounds like the one you're looking at is in similar but a little better condition than mine.
Also, if you have not joined the Hudson Club I'd be happy to help. I have some extra copies of the Hudson Club magazines that you may have. I'd be happy to invite you to vist and join our Hudson chapter.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Lee O'Dell
818 845 2945
email hetcleescars@yahoo.com drop the het
PS All the parts I have needed have been found from the club members.0 -
Lee, thanks for the offer and I'll definitely call you and set that up.
Russell, it's hard, as I really like this truck, but yes, there are others out there. 46 HudsonPU (sorry, didn't catch your name), I would be willing to look at and chase down any leads on trucks, to learn more about them and also the eventually find the right one, whichever that is.
I am going to try and revisit this truck this week, asap, and get the photos on here. Maybe it will help to ID the engine trans and other particulars.
Again, thanks to all for your input, I really appreciate it and look forward to purchasing a truck and becoming a part of your hobby.
Dave Galassi0 -
Hey Dave, Like Lee, I'm not that far from you, over in Temple City. If you want to take a look at another truck you can stop by and see mine.
Let us know how your bid goes with the one your looking at.
Lance0 -
Small world Lance! I'm a Temple City High School grad! I would love to see both of your trucks. I'm going back to see the truck again today and hope to have and post pictures this afternoon. Would like to have any feedback on them.
Dave Galassi0 -
Forgot to put some words to the pics..........
Here is the truck I'm trying to purchase. I,m going to post as many pictures as I can and would appreciate any input. Thanks again to Lance, Russell, Lee and everyone else who has already chimed in.
Dave0 -
Here are a few more. I have some overall shots, but I want to learn how to block out the license plate to protect the owner's privacy. Once I figure that out, I'll post them.
Dave0 -
Pretty decent looking truck, Dave. It's definitely a stepdown engine but can't tell what size from the photos what size it is. If it's a 308 it will have a small rib running down each side of the block from front to back about an inch or so above the oil pan rails. Otherwise it's a 262 or 232. If you want to look at another truck, call Jason at vintage coach in Fontana,Ca. Tues to Thurs 8 to 5. 909-823-9168. Good luck.0
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Dave-
Looks like a decent truck from the pics. If he doesn't want an arm and a leg, I'd say this is a viable candidate for you. Keep us posted.0 -
Good looking truck Dave. I wish mine looked that good.
Lee O'Dell0 -
Thanks again all. Yes, it has an overdrive trans. The bed is straight and the gate as well. The mechanicals are a big question mark. Even if it does run, the owner doesn't recall or know how fresh they are. From the looks of them, not very. The radiator needs to be gone through and the wiring needs work as well. The hydraulic system needs everything, as there is no clutch resistance (pedal to the floor and the brake pedal wouldn't move.
Forgive me, but what makes something a step down? Is that the nomenclature for a 48 and later car? Why?
Dave0 -
I'm working on getting those other pictures on here. Thanks for the explanation. It appears to me that the truck is pretty complete and has most of it's parts (save for hood emblems, visors, a few dash pieces, etc.). I hope we can make a deal. I like the truck and hope to get it, but the owner has to think about my last offer and get back to me. In the meantime, learn more and look at other trucks for sale.
Dave
P.S. Did they make a '42 truck?0 -
Hi Dave,
Been following along with the discussion but not being a "truck guy" did not have anything to offer. I do have a part time employment (never make any money though) doing auto appraisals. The data you have on price is right on. The truck is a nice example. Not original, but the upgrades add value to the vehicle. At this point, price pretty much means if you are willing to come to an agreement it will be a good deal. But, do not feel lost. We Hudson folks are an accomadating lot and we are sure we can find you a good truck for your use. By the way, Jason Fisher, over at Vintage Coach (16593 Arrow Blvd., Fontana, California (909 823-9168) albrighthudsons@msn.com has a very nice "turn key" truck for sale. I saw it at Laughlin a few weeks ago. send him an email and he will send you some photos.
I attached a photo of the inside of a step-down (my 1950 commodore 6)so you could see the configuration of the interior of the car and it explains itself as to the name stepdown.... If you look at the bottom of the door on the outside and compare it to the bottom of the door on the inside you can see about a 4 inch dip inside that caused you to "step down" into the car.0 -
Hi Dave,
I'm going to be home all day today if you still want to look at my truck. I also have a 53 Hornet which is called a stepdown if you would like to see the difference.
It looks like the rain clouds have passed us by for now.
If you have the time give me a call at 818 845 2945. I'd be glad to meet with you.
Lee O'Dell0 -
Lee, I'll give you a call tomorrow and set up a time. I really appreciate your offer. Lance, I'd like to speak to you as meet you as well, seeing as we are so close.
Well, I followed 46Hudson's advice and saved the photos and deleted the license plate, but I can't attach them now. Maybe it is the changes to the forum software they are doing now. I'll keep trying.
I've been in touch with Vintage Coach and will see those trucks this week. If anyone else knows of a nice body truck for sale, please let me know. I can deal with the mechanicals, but not the body work. I'd rather get a good truck up front. Still hoping this one works out, though.
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That truck looks pretty good. If I may say so, it's not missing the scipt on the hood. The trucks didn't have script on the hood. There should be small split rivets in the holes there where the script would be if it were a car. Also, I was going to mention that the front bumper looks like a car bumper and the bumper that is on the back looks like a truck front bumper, with the bumperettes one hole too far out. There should not be a bumper on the back, originally.0
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Thanks bent metal. I wondered about that. The holes in the hood are definitely original, not just drilled round holes, but stamped 0 shaped holes. The bumpers are straight, just not right, then.
Did anyone option the trucks with a rear bumper. If so, what bumper? Seems a bit off without one.0 -
If it were me, I would take a close look at the rear bumper. I think it's right, just on the wrong end.
There is a link to the Hudson truck group here on this forum. In which there was some discussion as to what was originally correct on a Hudson truck. Worth a look.0 -
Dave
That truck is far better looking than your first discription. From the pictures I think you will be hard pressed to find another truck as nice looking as this one, for the money, without being a fully restored truck. The body looks very good.
I have several Pickup pictures with many different styles of rear bumpers the owners have installed on the rear of their trucks to give me an idea for my truck. Your welcome to view them. They are photos in an album so I will not be able to post them.
I hope you get the truck. I can't help but be excited for you. What a find!
Looking forward to getting together. Talk to you tomorrow.
Lee O'Dell0
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