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drivergo2
drivergo2 Expert Adviser
edited November -1 in HUDSON
I know we have gone this on topic before buti cant find it. Is it the num. on the title or the num. on the car. To see when it was built. 52 hornet 7b191306 on the title. Thanks John:unsure:

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  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    Have to go with the number on the car to know when it was built. In this case 191306 was built sometime in August 1952, probably toward the end of the month, (Ser. No's 186481 thru 192466).


    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • 53jetman
    53jetman Senior Contributor
    I would think the serial number on the title would agree with the number on the car!
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    53jetman wrote:
    I would think the serial number on the title would agree with the number on the car!

    Let's certainly hope so!!
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    53jetman wrote:
    I would think the serial number on the title would agree with the number on the car!

    It can depend on the state and where the car came from. If the car came from a salvage yard without a title, then some states might issue a new serial number. I'm trying to jump start the brain cells here - but it seems to me there was a Hudson in Washington state had two serial numbers. One was the car, the other issued by the state because there was no title to start with.

    I know that sounds crazy but consider Massachusetts, and I think Ohio is another, who insist on a 16 or 17 character VIN number. Which, of course, Hudson, and most other cars back-in-the-day, didn't even come close. One solution is to apply for a title using something like 7B 1234560000000000 - that'll work. I won't even go into what's involved in Massachusetts if you come up with a car without a title.

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    I guess if you end up with a car without a title you run it out to Utah (Idaho or Wyoming?). What you do is call up your local Officer of the law, show him the car and the bill of sale (I have even written the bill of sale myself when I did not have one) and fill out a short form. He signs it and you drive down to the DMV, pay your taxes and get your plate. Not Rocket Science......
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    I guess if you end up with a car without a title you run it out to Utah (Idaho or Wyoming?). What you do is call up your local Officer of the law, show him the car and the bill of sale (I have even written the bill of sale myself when I did not have one) and fill out a short form. He signs it and you drive down to the DMV, pay your taxes and get your plate. Not Rocket Science......

    That's pretty much the way Massachusetts does it - car inspected by a police officer, fill out a form and trot on down to DMV. Then fight with the Registry Nazis!! Mass. registry people are not known for tact and understanding. Registry officials in Mass. operate on the certainty that if the car does not have any paper work, then it is a given it was stolen. Doesn't matter it came out of a salvage yard where it had been resting for 30, 40 years or more - it has no paperwork, thus it's a stolen vehicle.

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • 53jetman
    53jetman Senior Contributor
    Alex - I recently (3-24-10) went thru the changing of a Canadian title to Ohio when I bought my '54 Hornet Coupe from Hedley Bennett. Walked into the title office, handed the lady the "import" papers from crossing the border at Port Huron MI - she said "I see!" She walked to the back of the office and 10 minutes later brought my Ohio title up to the front counter with the odometer mileage and the original Hudson serial number on it. I paid the Ohio Sales Tax on the transaction and danced across the hall to the DMV to get my Historical License. Pretty simple, I could hardly believe it myself!
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    53jetman wrote:
    Alex - I recently (3-24-10) went thru the changing of a Canadian title to Ohio when I bought my '54 Hornet Coupe from Hedley Bennett. Walked into the title office, handed the lady the "import" papers from crossing the border at Port Huron MI - she said "I see!" She walked to the back of the office and 10 minutes later brought my Ohio title up to the front counter with the odometer mileage and the original Hudson serial number on it. I paid the Ohio Sales Tax on the transaction and danced across the hall to the DMV to get my Historical License. Pretty simple, I could hardly believe it myself!

    53jetman, you obviously found a clerk who didn't know what she was doing!!!! But, of course you had a title of something!!! LOL I had correspondence with someone with an older Hudson they'd bought in Kentucky without a title and they had a hell of time with the Ohio DMV. We finally solved the problem - he "sold" me the car, I took the bill of sale to the DMV in Maine where I lived at the time and for the magnificent sum of $50 obtained a Maine title. Cars that old do not require a title in Maine, but they're happy to give you one if you want to pay for it. Then I "sold" the car, with title, back to the fellow. He was happy, Ohio DMV was ecstatic and it all worked out.:woohoo:


    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • drivergo2
    drivergo2 Expert Adviser
    Thanks you guys, I havent changed the title yet. Its been off the road since 1966, And he didnt change it over . So i know i will be put in jail for 5 to 10 for trying. Anyway thanks agin John:ohmy:
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