Clutches
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You cannot fit a dry plate into a Hudson clutch. Conversion to a dry clutch would necessitate you using a complete dry clutch mechanism. Hudson used a Borg and Beck 10" dry clutch in the Jet and Hash models. These will not interchange directly with the earlier wet clutches. Why do you ask?
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Hi Well I Will Not Say Can't!!!!!! I Know Of A Few Guys Who Have Done It But Why Would You Want To! Other Than Racing. The Parts Are Avalable And Not Out Of Price Range And The Hudson Wet Clutch Is Sooooo Smooth Canging Some Thing Just To Do It Or Update It Isn't Always Right
Hudsonly
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As Geoff said you will need all of the parts plus a new flywheel the Hudson flywheel in the wet clutch is thinner and lighter because the wet clutch is much more efficient at dissipating heat. Like the old Hudnuts say the wet clutch is a toughie.0
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So are you saying that there is a suitable dry clutch that would work ?0
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What they are saying is Why? Wet clutch worked great for many years. If you just want to spend money, that is another story. I have never seen one used or heard any reports on the dry clutch, but one is available from uncommom engineering.Uncommon Engineering website0
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It' been done in the past. I wanted to know if anyone knew what to use. I know all about wet clutches, having owned many Hudsons and never having a problem with any of them. I was going to put a 10" clutch in my Terp.as I have 3.07 gears which is a little tall for for a 9" clutch and hills and lots of 8 cyl. torque. I think I probally will end up putting 3.54 or 3.73 gears in it.0
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tombpa wrote:It' been done in the past. I wanted to know if anyone knew what to use.
You will need:-
A dry clutch plate that has been fitted with the 6 spline centre from your wet clutch
A suitable dry clutch pressure plate
A thicker flywheel
And when you set it all up, you need to make sure the throwout on your new pressure plate ends up exactly the same distance from the back of the engine as the original. Do all that and it should work perfectly.
While we are talking clutches, at the risk of causing mass apolexy, being drummed out of HET etc, I would like to say that dry clutches were pretty well sorted out and reliable by the late 20s.
Wet clutches were an anachronism by the late 30's, and that Hudson should put a wet clutch in a brand new power train in 1948 is beyond comprehension. But they finally saw the light with the Jet in 53.0 -
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I agree on the thread about the anachronistic wet clutch. Why they stuck with it for so long remains a mystery, apart from the aprocophyal tale that the powers that be in Hudson said "It is a defining feature of our cars, which have always had wet clutches."
Surely they could have saved many hundreds of thousands of dollars in a production run by just buying in dry clurchtes as they finally did with the Jet, which has a perfectly adequate and smooth functioning, trouble free unit. Regarding the question of fitting a dry plate using the Hudson pressure plate, the spring tension is such that a dry plate grabs viciously, so if you were contemplating this you would have to change the springs to something lighter, and you would also have to open up the cover to allow the dust to disperse. One of our members here in N.Z. converted a '38 112 sedan to a dry clutch using a Landrover unit, but he has since died, so I cannot get the details of how he did it. It does involve a considerable amount of engineering though.
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There was a '49 Super Six for sale on Ebay the orher day that was converted to a dry clutch. If anyone is interested they can try contacting the owner.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Hudson-Super-Six-HUDSON-1949-SUPER-6_W0QQitemZ4593007687QQcategoryZ6472QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem0 -
I'm afraid that some of you don't see the point regarding the wet clutch vs. the dry clutch. It was quite simply a superior product that Hudson made available for their superior vehicles. Perhaps some would see it differently if Packard or Cadilac also had wet clutches, but they simply didn't. While both being fine quality autos, neither was as performance engineered as the Hudson.The wet clutch undoubtedly added more to the cost of making the Hudson, but it's quicker RPM response (lighter fltwheel), performance (lower drag coefficient meant it was far, far less prone to chatter)and durabilty (easily a third longer life expectancy with periodic fluid changes) meant tremendous value for the Hudson owner. Unless you've driven a number of the Brand X contempories of the Hudson, you probably don't know how loud and iritating cluch chatter can be. The wet clutch is one of Hudson's great assets and not something for which I'd ever apologize.0
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And as well the pedal pressure with a wet clutch is significantly less than a dry clutch we are told. A good wet clutch certainly has a very nice smooth and light engagement. Why anyone would want a dry clutch escapes me unless to trnasmit more power, but then surely the wet clutch pressure plate can be upgraded to take care of this.0
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