Idea to get more young members in HET

50C8DAN
50C8DAN Senior Contributor
edited November -1 in HUDSON
My 9 year old son has a friend that is Hudson crazy, he loves to come over and look at my C8 and ride in any parade and go to any car show where we go. Sadly, his father has absolutely no interest in the auto hobby, so the chances of him getting into the hobby from the family end is a no go. To help out I will be buying him his own membership to the HET, however it got me thinking about another way to get younger members in the club. Why not have half price memberships for those under 15? The Studebaker Club has a junior membership something like this and I think it is a great thing. Any comments?

Comments

  • Aaron D. IL
    Aaron D. IL Senior Contributor
    I think that's a good idea. I think the club should also give a "scholarship" to young people to attend the National. Not just any kid who wants to go though. I mean enthusiastic young people as you describe. Because you cost of going to a national can be $1000 or more if you're hanging out there for a week. This is the number one thing any car club needs to understand. If you want younger member you HAVE TO keep the costs of involvement way low for them. It's either that or they'll just go buy a $60 video game spend hours upon hours on that and their out of the car hobby.
    If fact if the club did more things collectively the economies of scale would keep costs down for everyone.
    What if the club rounded up all the cheapest step-downs and had on-going group projects of young people learning on them and restoring them?
    One more thing I have to say as someone who was/is a younger member. I came into the club with a lot of enthusiasm. I met a few guys who were just as enthusiastic but I also me a lot who were "meeh" about Hudsoning. Now I realize that most of our members deep down do love the hobby but have also had their experiences tempered by some negative realities. Also a lot of our veterans have "been there done that." So maybe they're not as excited as they used to be. BUT when a young person wants to come into the fold and is shooting off sparks of enthusiasm YOU NEED TO DUMP FUEL ON THE FIRE. Encourage and act enthusiastic around them.. even if you don't feel like it. Even if you're not sure how serious they are. Enthusiasm is contagious and if you're going to hold the interest of younger people ya can't be a wet blanket.
  • Nevada Hudson
    Nevada Hudson Senior Contributor
    Have more activities at the Nationals for children
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    Good comments, Aaron. Another way to attract youger members is to offer to a nearby High School or Jr. College to come and talk about the collector car hobby, or extend an invitation for interested students to attend the next chapter meet. There are other opportunities, too ... long time Dixie Chapter member and Editor Preston Stevens convinced GA Tech to introduce a course on the history of automobile design and fundamentals of collector car restoration.
  • akcoop
    akcoop Administrator
    Dan, I thought I would point out that the Studebaker Club's junior membership was the same price as their 2nd class mail price. Our second class mail membership is $30 and our First Class is $43. Their first class mail membership is $60. I would love to know how many young folks they attract with this. Much like our club, they are constrained by the cost of producing our magazine to be able to discount any membership that does not include the magazine. They offer a membership only for $10.

    US Rates
    Regular Membership with Periodicals-Class Mail:
    New Members, First Year Only.............................$24.00 USD
    Regular Membership Renewal..............................$31.00 USD
    Student/Young Adult (to age 22).........................$24.00 USD
    Turning Wheels subscription only.........................$24.00 USD
    Regular Membership with First-Class Mail............$60.00 USD

    No Magazine - Membership Only..........................$10.00 USD
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    edited July 2011
    I think one of the biggest stumbling blocks to getting younger (or any) memberships is the (apparent) reluctance of HET club members to TAKE THEIR CAR OUT TO PUBLIC SHOWS!!!!!!!!!! Think about it. And read some of the posts here on the forum about HET members who go to a car show and report 1, maybe 2, Hudsons among the crowd - and usually those 1 or 2 Hudsons are attracting a lot of attention. REMEMBER - A ROLLING HUDSON IS ROLLING ADVERTISEMENT THAT WE DO EXIST.

    I have beeting beating this poor stubborn mule for 40 years - but the message doesn't seem to sink in. I simply do not understand, and never will, why, if a member has a car, there is this seeming reluctance to take it out into the public. Speaking for the New England Chapter, I've seen years and years of summer meets with the cars hidden away in somebody's back yard. I really haven't heard of to many other venues, tho the current annual meet in Pigeon Forge seems to be popular, where our members bring their cars into the public. However, one or two meets a year ain't gonna get the message across, folks.

    I realize that it is hot in the summer time, and most Hudsons aren't air conditioned - but it seems to me 2 or 3 times a summer won't kill you. I don't understand, however, the old doggeral about not going to a brand-x show because they charge admission. Seems to me $10, $15, maybe even $20, is cheap advertisement. If you can hand out a dozen membership applications at that meet and only one comes home to roost, you've recouped that admission fee.

    Ok, ok - my soapbox for today. Maybe I'm just one of those tired "veterans" (in more ways than one) Coop mentioned. But we got to do something - not to be morbid, but read the "Passing Lane" column in the WTN. That'll bring you up short - like WWII vets HET club members are leaving in considerable numbers. Think about it.

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • akcoop
    akcoop Administrator
    Dan, I failed to applaude you for your sponsorship of your son's friend. This is the type of thing that our members need to do. It is hard for the HET Club to do anything financially due to the tight budget. Same goes for any type of scholarship. We keep our membership cost low and therefore dont have a lot of wiggle room. If every member looked for a younger enthusiast and purchased a membership for them we would start to foster some continuity between generations. I will be sponsoring my younger son with a membership to give him a closer connection with the Club as well.
  • RonS
    RonS Senior Contributor
    Some sugestions re this attempt to bring in younger members. 1. Offer one year free HET membership to a family. This would get the youth to convince the non-caring parent to see what we offer.Maybe they will stay. Assign a volunteer to be a mentor for any new members. The mentor would call and remind the newbie of any outings or meetings. 2. Individual "Youth membership" fee of $15/yr. Limit ages from 16-25, due to issues with minors without parental control , and college students need to exceed 4 years of school.3. Offer members and their children, or grandchildren, a $1000 scholorship to any certified college, university, or trade school. 4. ADVERTISE the heck out of this in auto related publications ie, Motor Trend, Hemmings,Auto Enthusiest.Also, try Ebay, You Tube etc. An organization will not survive if only cuts are made- you need to spend money to attract good people.
  • akcoop
    akcoop Administrator
    I hestitate to even make comments on the forum since discussions have a tendency to take negative turns and there is always a potential for those posting to lack restraint in posting. But since new membership and retention of current membership is the highest priority we have in the club, I appreciate this discussion and the current tenor of this thread.

    RonS I thought I would address some of your suggestions. First, I often hear of references to "the Club" taking certain actions. It is important for members to understand that NOTHING happens in the club without the invaluable support of volunteers. So anytime a member suggests any type of activity that "the Club" should do, my first question is: "Are you willing to lead this, organize, seek supporting voluteers and put this into play?" A good suggestion without a willingness to run it or to find someone to run it, is just a good suggestion.

    Second, I would love to have the ability to hand out memberships. The reality is that anytime there is a cost, we have to be able to track and check to see that the expediture has an equal or greater return. This requires a volunteer to do that work which requires someone willing to do the work. I would also love to advertise in all the auto magazines, but they also have a cost and therefore requires an equal or greater return in order to ensure that the advertizing dollars are well spent. An organization that spends more to attract people than the dollars that it brings in on membership dues and at the same time paying the fixed costs of membership (in our case, WTN publishing and mailing) will not be around very long and does not do right by its membership.

    The best way of doing this is for each member, who finds an interested person, to sponsor a membership. The member then, has an interest in the prospective member and can intereact personally with them. They can invite the prospetive member to meets and encourage them. This is a grass roots approach and has been the main reason for our clubs growth and success until today.

    I like the scholarship idea but this would be better sponsored by individuals who have the funds to do this and have a local relationship with a community college. Wonderful idea but the cost is not feasible for our Club.

    As always I am looking for volunteers who are interested in working on these types of initiatives at the local level. What the New Membership Committee is looking at is how can the National Club support Chapters in their membership activities. We are also looking at putting controls in place so that we can measure the effectiveness of the small amount of advertising we can afford. However the key element of all of our membership activities is members reaching out to prospective members they meet.

    Thanks RonS for your suggestions.

    Alex, thanks for your comments. My 29 is out of the garage as much as possible. I agree, you gotta drive them.
  • 7XPacemaker
    7XPacemaker Senior Contributor
    The number of members in the Hudson club is going to diminish no matter WHAT is done. There are not many young people interested in old Studebakers, Hudsons, etc. They are more interested in muscle cars and more modern automobiles. Let's be honest- there aren't too many young people that want to hunt around for months trying to find parts that are all but extinct. The technology is ancient. When cars first came out, you had to be a carpenter. Then it switched to metalsmith. Now its an electrician. Most don't want to be bothered with a car company that has come and gone. Hell, most of the people in the parts house look at you funny when you tell them you have an American Motors. They say "Who made that?". If you use the term "Brass car" around them they think that the entire car was cast in brass. All of the old car clubs are faultering with their membership and can't recruit many younger members. It's not just the Hudson club. Attending car shows will do little if any good for the reasons explained above. "Doc" Hudson in the movie "Cars" was a flash in the pan. Nothing more. Yes, maybe the younger generation will know what a Hudson is, but that doesn't mean that they will want to own one. I am sure that I will be hung for this post. I am not trying to stir up trouble. This is just how I see it. :oops:
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    I am one of those folks that do not like to pay to go to a car show. That means that I go to a lot more cruzes than I do car shows. In a state that is small (Utah) there is something that I can do every weekend and often one night a week. I seldom make half the shows/cruizes around here but I do hit about 20 or 30 a year. I see and speak to a lot of folks but have yet convinced someone to go out and buy a Hudson. Most call me and tell me that they bought a Hudson.

    The other ideas mentioned are great!!! Think I will try some of them...
  • As a relatively young member of the club, I am 26, I thought I would chime in and speak from a little experience. My grandfather has had Hudsons my entire life, I would see them in his garage, even helped him out a little bit when he was restoring a 1949 Commodore, I even went to a few club meets with him. But it wasn't enough. Last year I had the opportunity to buy a Hudson from him, I jumped at the chance, and what was the first thing I did? before I even drove the car home.... I joined the club. The point I am trying to make is that these cars can never mean the same thing to someone that doesn't own one as they mean to us. What I am saying is something a lot of you are not going to like to hear. Get rid of some of your cars......and THEN spend the time with the young people you have sold them to. Like my Grandfather most of you guys have forgotten more about Hudsons then I will ever know. In my opinion that is the only real way to get new people into the club, The other ideas seem like great plans to build goodwill towards the club, but I am not to sure it will help get the membership numbers up. There are my two cents. Thanks for listening
  • To get young people interested in Hudson's you would have to have parts cost less so that a restoration won't rob them of family time. Hudson is not a sexy car like a Mustang and do not appreciate in value like some of the muscle and pony cars. One of the reasons I have my Hollywood for sale is that for me to buy twin-h it will cost over a thousand and I can't justify the cost because the people who have thest bought them many years ago for little money, I don't mind someone making a profit, but I can't afford what they are asking. Another thing is I only have a daughter and she and my wife would be hard pressed to find someone to fix a Hudson for a reasonable price, a car like a Mustang has many shops around that have the expertise for repairs. Maybe you should push young people to put in modern drive trains so they could get air/cruise/power options. I have seen some Hudson's retro-rodded and they look terrific, probably cheaper to do then the competition. Basically I think Hudson's are too expensive to restore for young people and the parts are getting harder to get.
  • Aaron D. IL
    Aaron D. IL Senior Contributor
    edited July 2011
    If someone can't fix a Hudson they're a lousy mechanic. Simpler car mechanically than a Mustang. Now can they fix it and get parts to arrive as quickly as a Mustang? Probably not. It's not a beginners car to restore maybe either. But if you have no patients this is not your hobby anyways...at ANY age level. I don't get why people keep saying "Where would you ever get parts?" It's like any other hobby. If you're outside of it you wouldn't have a clue where to start. If you're in the hobby and plugged into the network of people and suppliers...no problem.

    Also there's about 5,500 Hudson's in the HET Club give or take. I'd rather see a club of 5.500 people each with 1-or 2 very well cared for Hudson's than a club of half that each owning 40 cars continuing to deteriorate.
  • ESSX28-1
    ESSX28-1 Senior Contributor
    We could take out quite a lot of HET membership costs by sending the WTN as a pdf to young people. For many of us the WTN is one of the most important benefits of being a member & personally I want to continue receiving a printed (aka permanant) copy but it is expensive to produce & mail out. Most young people today are far more computer literate than us oldies & this may be a hook to get them into the Club.
  • 50C8DAN
    50C8DAN Senior Contributor
    How about we start a HET program to sponsor a “young” person. This could be any age from 8 to 18 or whatever. Sponsor them with a one year membership and offer to take them to a meet or show or whatever. This would be an easy way to start. If there are 5,500 HETers and half sponsored a young person it would bump up the number to over 7,000 members. Not all would stay but I am betting a good number would! I still think a discounted membership for anyone 18 or under would be doable.
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    I am one of those folks that do not like to pay to go to a car show. That means that I go to a lot more cruzes than I do car shows. In a state that is small (Utah) there is something that I can do every weekend and often one night a week. I seldom make half the shows/cruizes around here but I do hit about 20 or 30 a year. I see and speak to a lot of folks but have yet convinced someone to go out and buy a Hudson. Most call me and tell me that they bought a Hudson.

    The other ideas mentioned are great!!! Think I will try some of them.

    I really like the idea of sponsoring a new member. I plan to starting looking for someone new every time I show my Hudson. I usually pass on my old copies of my WTN when I am at a show. I am sure that there is someone that will be looking at my car in the next few months that would benifit from a membership. Seems like a better way to spend my money than a enterance fee to one of the big shows held locally.
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    edited July 2011
    Re: paying to enter a car show ... there are plenty of local clubs whose events are free. Here in a modest size (pop. 60,000) town near Charlotte, I belong to a "Cruisers" club whose last three events have brought out 45, 65 and 50 cars on a Friday evening. I support this club because it's a great chance to get my Hudsons seen, and prople find them extremely interesting. At the most recent event our '47 Commodore sedan got the people's choice award (second time this year) though it was one of only a half dozen non-modified forties/fifties cars. Sure, there were more modifieds and street rods than anything else, but the club members and the public still seem to appreciate a decent looking un-modified critter.

    And taking a cue from this discussion, I'm going to start carrying some WTNs in the trunk when I go to these events.
  • Sarah Young
    Sarah Young Senior Contributor
    Most "admission" car shows are all about the trophy and are ALL DAY events. We restored our car to be a driver, something to enjoy as a family, not a trophy winner. With young children, staying all day for car shows isn't very appealing. We have a free cruise-in only 2 miles away from our home that's typically held from 5p-7p, but cars owners show up when they can and leave as they need to, often arriving well before 4p. This works well for us, because we can enjoy the show, and our car, and not make it take up a whole day. Last weekend almost 200 cars were there! I've also created a "Treasure Hunt" of sorts for the girls. See how many cars are painted their favorite colors (pink or purple!), find Herbie's (VW bugs), diner trays, things that don't belong on cars, stuffed animals, etc. They've actually been able to point out things that we didn't notice! I also make them wear shirts I made for them that say Hudson Jet Co-Pilot, not only to advertise but it helps them stick out in a crowd should they get seperated from us!
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    And a tip of Aunt Hesters bonnet to you Sarah - you DO have the right idea. I think your skirt and treasure hunts are a hoot and a half.

    I can also see your point about not wanting to stay at an event all day - especially with young kids. It takes a mountain to keep them occupied.

    There used to be a cruise night, once a month, over in New Hampshire, at a drive-in sandwich shop that I went over to a couple times. Town finally closed it down - they did have a point in that 500 to 700 cars and growing was stretching things a bit. Those cruise nights were getting to the point where cars were parked up to a mile from the drive-in place. LOL

    Keep up the good work.


    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
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