Helpin Someone Out

Aaron D. IL
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I'm trying to help out a '47 C6 owner that has a car he hasn't had running in a long time. Does anyone have a lead on a good running 212 engine OR a good running (you're pretty darn sure it would run) Jet 202
Is there anyone on this forum who has ever done the Jet 202 swap into a '40's Hudson????
Does it plug in or require mods?? How difficult is it?
Is there anyone on this forum who has ever done the Jet 202 swap into a '40's Hudson????
Does it plug in or require mods?? How difficult is it?
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There is a fellow in Detroit who put a Hornet engine in a '36T, he even used the '36T transmission, so it can be done. I have considered putting a 202 (Jet) engine in my '36T just to get the modern oiling system. They are about the same length. You will need to make an adapter plate for the transmission, I believe.0
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I may be wrong, but I think I remember that Tom Bixby from Mass has a 46 or 47 convertible that has a 202 in it. I'm sure he is in the registry,I am NOT SURE I am right about the motor in his car.0
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davegnh1 wrote:I may be wrong, but I think I remember that Tom Bixby from Mass has a 46 or 47 convertible that has a 202 in it. I'm sure he is in the registry,I am NOT SURE I am right about the motor in his car.
Dave is correct. Tom has a 202 in his '47 S6 convertible.
Kevin C.0 -
I am bringing this subject back up as I started researching the positive merits of installing a 202 Jet engine in a future project, a 37 Terraplane coupe. To me the insert bearings would be a big plus, but I'd rather keep the timing gear and not the 202 chain.
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Jerry Crater in Az. has a 202 in his 46/7 super 6 coupe.0
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I have not heard of anyone making that type of swap (gear for chain on 202). If you were looking into it supposedly the 202 is more closely related to the 254 .
The Hudson tech staff reworked the 254 tooling to machine the 202 . Basicly loping off the last two cylinders and of course changing the bearing / oiling set up.
The point is the spacing between camshaft and crank may be the same?
Roger0 -
Tallent R wrote:I have not heard of anyone making that type of swap (gear for chain on 202). If you were looking into it supposedly the 202 is more closely related to the 254 .
The Hudson tech staff reworked the 254 tooling to machine the 202 . Basicly loping off the last two cylinders and of course changing the bearing / oiling set up.
The point is the spacing between camshaft and crank may be the same?
Roger
This is largely urban myth. The only similarity between the Jet, and the Hudson 8 is the spacing between the cylinders, so yes they obviously used the same boring machines for cylinders, and the crank diameter is the same, as are the pistons, although the Jet pistons are lighter and not T-slot. However, apart from the pistons there are no interchangeable parts between either splash sixes or the Hudson 8 with the Jet, apart from the flywheel bolts. It was a completely re-designed motor, with higher compression, radically different camshaft design, with mushroom lifters, chain driven cam, four main bearings, replaceable steel-backed shell, and pressure fed oiling. The Jet is of course 10 cubic inches less than the earlier sixes, and produces 3 more b.h.p., and is a much better performing motor, particularly at the top end, with exceptional torque. I have been driving my Jet for over 40 years, and it is in my opinion the best all-round car that Hudson ever produced for performance, manouverability, visibility, economy, roominess, and reliability. Other models had more horsepower, internal room, and looked better, but for a universal use car the Jet takes a lot of beating.0 -
Which transmission did the Jet use for manual versions? I am thinking 3sp with od.0
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You can cerainly see how folk are able to believe the relationship. You look at a Jet motor and it "Looks" like the 245 mor than a 262. Just look at the Exhaust manifold. Exits at the front like the 254 & 212. Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as the transmisson on the Jet I have been told the early Ford mustang used almost the same one. And yes overdrive was a common option.
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Jet transmissions were the standard for the era Borg-Warner 3-speed, 2 lever, available with o/d. You cannot retro-fit an o/d to a standard transmission, they use different casings. As to the manifold, again the only resemblance is the front exit flange. The manifold is bolted to the side of the block, not the top as in the 8's and splash sixes.0
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