Want to buy a nice set of Twin-H Aircleaners

[Deleted User]
[Deleted User]
edited November -1 in HUDSON
Hi Guys,

I'm looking to buy a set of nice straight Hornet Twin-H Air cleaners. Either standard or the oil bath. Please PM me or e-mail me at XXXnhp1127@gmail.com (drop the XXX's)and let em know what you have and the pricing. Thanks, Niels
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    You ever wonder who has all the air cleaners? I would estimate 3/4 of the old hudson's I bring home come with no air filter.
    Is there some black market for them I'm missing someplace?
    Roger
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    You're right, Roger. I've seen a surprising number of parked Hudsons with no air cleaner at all. I must have gotten somewhat lucky. Up until a few months ago, I had had a dozen air cleaners, or enough for 1/2-a dozen Twin-H set-ups. I have since sold them all off except for one extra set that I kept. I have an extra 308 that I eventually want to build up for a stand, and also for a "just in case" engine.
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    edited February 2012
    How many times have you seen "Twin-H set-up for sale - but the linkage is missing?? However, that can be fabricated.

    Maybe the guy that's got all the air cleaners also has a bunch of linkages for Twin-H.


    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    hudsontech wrote:
    How many times have you seen "Twin-H set-up for sale - but the linkage is missing?? However, that can be fabricated.

    So does this mean the fellow that's been hoarding air cleaners away is also hoarding the linkages???:P


    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • hoggyrubber
    hoggyrubber Expert Adviser
    i guess it's just the air cleaners are so easy to take or leave off. a little like clutch dust covers. i don't how many times i bought a truck and the person who swapped a engine was to lazy to put the clutch cover back on. then you have to find one. i bought a 55 just for the twin h a year or so back and the only thing the guy had already sold was the air cleaners. too fast and easy i guess.
  • MikeWA
    MikeWA Senior Contributor
    They were big and "in the way" back in the day- once they took 'em off, they threw them in the shed, and eventually they went to the dump.

    Older Oliver tractors had louvered panels on the side of the engine. Everybody took them off so engine access was easier, and ran cooler in the summer. Somebody is repopping them now, because most of the original ones are gone.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Yah, I agree. These aircleaners are big and lots of guys took them off and put on the little chrome ones that don't weigh anything.

    Now these big units really make an engine bay stand out.
  • bent metal
    bent metal Senior Contributor
    What's the going rate for a decent, not perfect, set of air cleaners for the Twin-H set up?

    Are the oil vs. dry about the same price?
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    These are the kind of items that you want to put on eBay at a respectable price and see just what the market will allow. I saw a set of oil bath with a buy it now for $200.00 They were not a bad set and did not get a single bid. A week later a set of oil bath started at $50.00 for the first bid and ended at $300.00.

    I like the looks of an oil bath on a 308. But, some folks I have talked with did not like the service effort to clean and set them up. I guess the price is dependent what you want to pay? Would love to have a dozen of each in my shop. Helping out some folks would be fun.... and profitable.
  • ski4life65
    ski4life65 Expert Adviser
    edited February 2012
    When they show up on Ebay, the dry versions in OK shape seem to sell for $200+. Oil bath seem to run a little less. I am not sure I have ever seen restored sets for sale. I have more than a dozen sitting on the shelf (every style), but they all need a fair amount of work to remove dents. I am pretty sure one of the was run over......
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    edited February 2012
    Mike (WA) wrote:
    They were big and "in the way" back in the day- once they took 'em off, they threw them in the shed, and eventually they went to the dump.

    Older Oliver tractors had louvered panels on the side of the engine. Everybody took them off so engine access was easier, and ran cooler in the summer. Somebody is repopping them now, because most of the original ones are gone.

    Late 30's (like around 1937, that I know of) had solid side panels that were removable - real cool to tool around town in a 38 Dodge couple with a 241 small block hemi with the side panels off.

    That look did have a nuisance side tho - it was a cop magnet!!! They saw a car with the side panels off, they just knew it was a hot rod (now called resto rod) and latched onto you like an octopus following you all over town most of the night. (In small towns cops didn't have much else to do but hassle the hot rod crowd.)

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • mikeyb
    mikeyb Senior Contributor
    If you click on the "Hudson parts" ad on this forum´s website (http://www.hudsonparts.com/?page_id=16) and scroll down, then click on "Hudson parts" again, and then scroll down again, you can see a nice pair lying on the top of a shelf. Maybe he still has them? ;-))

    Kind regards from Germany

    Mike
  • lsfirth
    lsfirth Expert Adviser
    Are the twin-H air cleaners actually different than the regular ones (other than being painted red and coming in a 2 pack)?

    I have an old oil-bath unit sitting on the shelf....probably won't use it.

    Thanks,
    Lee
  • Lee ODell
    Lee ODell Senior Contributor
    edited February 2012
    Measure the end of air cleaner that fits the carb. Perry Spring gave me these tips.

    Twin-H end is 2 1/4 inch.
    Regular 2 barrel carb end is 2 9/16 inches

    I've found this helpful at swap meets. Almost bought a air cleaner that looked like a Twin-H air cleaner until I measured it.

    Perry also suggested checking the threads on the bottom of the air cleaner for worn out threads for the support bracket attachment bolt.

    I happen to have three Twin-H air cleaner willing to sell. If interested email: HETcleeacars@yahoo.com drop the HET.

    Hope this helps. It did for me.
    Have a good day.
    Lee O'Dell
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I was wondering about this myself.
    I have one rough and rusty air cleaner that I've thought of using as a pattern for making a pair of new ones. It doesn't look too terribly complex if you're not stuck on originality.

    I noticed that the guys at uncommon engineering have some new air cleaners made up for their 3 and 4 carb setups. It might not bee too much of a reach to see if they have new ones for the Twin-H as well.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    bent metal wrote:
    What's the going rate for a decent, not perfect, set of air cleaners for the Twin-H set up?

    Are the oil vs. dry about the same price?

    Hey Bent,

    Are you thinkin' of re-popping some??
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    edited February 2012
    Did someone mention Oliver? Here's my '47, row crop.
    Hope I'm not hijacking this thread...slim

    DSCN1510.jpg
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I cant speak for anyone but me , I dont mind . Looks like a nice old tracktor
    Roger
  • lostmind
    lostmind Expert Adviser
    Oliver was the Hudson of the Tractor world.
    Very nice.
  • Lee ODell
    Lee ODell Senior Contributor
    edited February 2012
    Something else to check for on a Twin-H air cleaner is the strap clamp, that it is not broken. Forgot to mention that on previous post.

    Lee O'Dell
  • bent metal
    bent metal Senior Contributor
    DaveFury wrote:
    bent metal wrote:
    What's the going rate for a decent, not perfect, set of air cleaners for the Twin-H set up?

    Are the oil vs. dry about the same price?

    Hey Bent,

    Are you thinkin' of re-popping some??


    Weeeell. ...Not really. Too many little lips and flanges to make fit together. But I have fixed a few. Something to know about these air cleaners is that they are made of very thin metal in the body. Like trying to weld a coke can. I don't remember anymore how thick it was. But if you find one with a rip in the metal, in an area with no access to the inside, it's not going to be an easy fix.

    I'd pay a little more for a really good one, rather than less for one that needed fixed. ...just my opinion. :)
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    Weeeell. ...Not really. Too many little lips and flanges to make fit together. But I have fixed a few. Something to know about these air cleaners is that they are made of very thin metal in the body. Like trying to weld a coke can. I don't remember anymore how thick it was. But if you find one with a rip in the metal, in an area with no access to the inside, it's not going to be an easy fix.

    I'd pay a little more for a really good one, rather than less for one that needed fixed. ...just my opinion. :)[/quote]

    I think these would be a pretty hard item to re-pop. Although, it is possible to take them apart, as I have done it many times. Dents can be fixed that way, insides can be cleaned. And, as far as the center sections, a good quality stovepipe is all that is needed to do a replacement.
  • bent metal
    bent metal Senior Contributor
    Can you go into a little detail? How did you take it apart?
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    I use a prybar (a beekeeper's prybar, to be exact), but various other tools will work. The flange that is folded around the edge of the cylinder can be "uncrimped", a little at a time, working around the perimeter of the cylinder. When you get it stretched out enough, you can get the ends off of the cylinder. Then the unit can be re-assembled by re-crimping the edge.
  • Lee ODell
    Lee ODell Senior Contributor
    edited February 2012
    Pardon my lack of knowledge but what does a beekeepers pry bar look like. First time I have heard of such a tool.

    Lee O'Dell
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    I'll try and post a pic later, but it is basically an "L"-shaped prybar, 1" x 8 or 9", with very sharp ends on both ends. I usually grind mine to be nearly razor sharp. Beekeepers use them to pry the lids from the bee "houses" when it's time to cultivate the honey, etc. Great tools, they have a myriad of uses.
  • bent metal
    bent metal Senior Contributor
    Russell, maybe you could restore these for people?
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Lee ODell wrote:
    Pardon my lack of knowledge but what does a beekeepers pry bar look like. First time I have heard of such a tool.

    Lee O'Dell
  • Lee ODell
    Lee ODell Senior Contributor
    edited February 2012
    Thank you Russell for the explanation how to take the air cleaner apart.

    Thank you for the picture Dave.

    Have a good day.
    Lee O'Dell
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    bent metal wrote:
    Russell, maybe you could restore these for people?

    I'd be happy to.

    Thanks Dave, for the pic.
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