1913 Hudson Torpedo for sale

Lee ODell
Lee ODell Senior Contributor
edited November -1 in HUDSON
I haven't seen one like this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1913-Hudson-4-37-Torpedo-Tourer-Beatifully-Restored-Classic-Touring-Car-/370596926410?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item56494c53ca

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  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    Beautiful car - and definitely a 1913 model. However, given VIN number of 4045 isn't correct. That number is for a 1910 Model 10 Fore-Door roadster (4001 to 5000).

    This car should carry a number between 15001 to 21000 (or if actually a 1912 model between 7501 to 9000.


    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor

    that may be the one I owned 10-15 years ago which at the time was largely unrestored. I say this as these are QUITE rare and that I sold it to a guy in Utah (Utah plates visible in one photo).
    I hopefully will be posting this with photo of my wife & I in period costume.
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    The plate that is shown in the front is from a Glidden Tour that was here in Utah in the 80's? Merrill Maxfield still has the one that you sold to him and he has an extra that is pretty much a parts car. He kinda uses the extra one to keep the other drivable. It could be restored and then he would have two? He does a lot of tours in the old Hudson and drives it like crazy. It is mostly unrestored but very drivable. He has a few other Hudson's and others; but the old one is the one that he likes to drive.
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    if you look at the firewall plate the VIN # is 36614.
    The Glidden Tour plate is dated 1962. The guy who owned this car at that time I believe also had a '13 6-54 & a '29 H dual cowl phaeton & bought a '29 Hudson long w.b. phaeton from Carl Weber. Saw his collection once & he later went broke & had to sell all his Hudsons.
    He supposedly rejuvenated his fortunes & began buying back cars he'd lost. I believe this was his car in the '60s and after he "got rich" again contacted me to buy mine as it was, as you can see from the photos, identical to the one he'd had which probably wasn't for sale.
    I don't remember his name & I don't believe he belonged to HET. Can't remember where I bought & after selling him my '13 never heard from him or of him again.
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    Pete - looking at the pictures, in the right side view of the engine what's the gizmo at the front that looks like an alternator??? The wiring coming from it doesn't look "period" either.

    But, it is 7am and I am not really awake at this point. B)

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    Alex - right, looks like someone put a modern alternator on it, LOL.
    Brownie - yep, that's the name, Merrill Maxfield.
    One reason I decided to part with it is that the '13 was Hudsons first year with a self-starter. This is an extremely complicated mechanism & a major part of it is missing. I advertised for years & was never able to find one & hand-cranking the big 4 not only hard to do but I'd always heard about how easy it is to get your arm broke doing so, LOL!
    I really got a kick out of driving it BUT lived in a city of over 100,000 then so tricky to drive the big guy around (NO front brakes on a '13 either) + being right hand drive usually wanted a passenger to help "negotiate" so to speak!
  • 4Hud
    4Hud Expert Adviser
    This car has been available in various places over the last couple of years, I think it was on the HCCA site at 20 grand less which sounded high to me. I would love to have it though.
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    4 Hud - irregardless of price, MAKE SURE they have the complete Delco starter devices and that they work! The Delco manual for that car, & I had one but don't remember if I sold it, is CONSIDERABLY bigger than the owners manual!
    They are really an interesting, as well as a "transitional" model with the self starter & being last of the right hand drive Hudsons.
    They are also sort of "a blast" to drive as you have to shift with your left hand & of course mandatory double clutching between big gated shift lever. Have to adjust the spark & prime it before starting (tricky when self-starter doesn't work, as I found out, as when does start have to run back to the levers in the steering wheel & cut back the start, cut back on the throttle lever, etc.!!!!
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    oldhudsons wrote:
    4 Hud - irregardless of price, MAKE SURE they have the complete Delco starter devices and that they work! The Delco manual for that car, & I had one but don't remember if I sold it, is CONSIDERABLY bigger than the owners manual!

    I've got two Delco manuals from that period, 1912-1913 Delco 6-24 volt system care and 1912-1914 Delco 6-24 dual ignition system care, in the online library.

    The later 6-54 electrical systems are even more complicated, I think.

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    edited March 2012

    Alex et al: the book I have has on the front cover "DELCO Instruction Book Hudson 1913" and on the first page "INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE CARE AND OPERATION of DELCO ELECTRIC SELF-CRANKING, LIGHTING, AND IGNITION SYSTEMS on HUDSON MODELS "37" AND "54".
    There is no copyright date and on the back page it in essence this was published by or for the Dayton Laboratories of Dayton, Ohio.
    It is 44 pages long with exc. illus. & photos.
    Above it a "right & proper" 6-54 engine & with it's 4 1/8" bore & 5 1/4" stroke was the biggest engine Hudson ever offered. The Model 37 was the last 4 cyl. engine Hudson was to offer.
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    oldhudsons wrote:
    Alex et al: the book I have has on the front cover "DELCO Instruction Book Hudson 1913" and on the first page "INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE CARE AND OPERATION of DELCO ELECTRIC SELF-CRANKING, LIGHTING, AND IGNITION SYSTEMS on HUDSON MODELS "37" AND "54".
    There is no copyright date and on the back page it in essence this was published by or for the Dayton Laboratories of Dayton, Ohio.
    It is 44 pages long with exc. illus. & photos.
    Above it a "right & proper" 6-54 engine & with it's 4 1/8" bore & 5 1/4" stroke was the biggest engine Hudson ever offered. The Model 37 was the last 4 cyl. engine Hudson was to offer.

    Ok, that one we don't have in the library - one of the Delco books is 19 pp, the other is 29pp.

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
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