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DID ANYBODY HERE WHAT THE WOODY SOLD FOR OVER THE WEEKEND.
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$159,500. If I had the funding, I'd be building a couple more just like it.0
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WOW, GOOD PRICE. IF I HAD THE MONEY I WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE BIDDING0
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Eldon Hostetler bought it, and it's at the museum.0
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Not to sound like sour grapes but among the comments overheard at the (Inter)national was a short discussion on prices of Hudsons lately. One comment is we are pricing younger members out of the club. Unfortunately those are the ones that we need to attract.
I'm sure all alternatives for the 2014 meet were considered and I'll be first to say I don't know what other facilities that can accomodate an (Inter)national are available. Gettysburg seemed to work out fairly well, but at $119 a night I had to find a room-share, which I did - but 2014 is, at the host hotel and $149 a night, a tad pricey in my honest opinion, And the back-up hotel at $174 is even worse.
If I attend I will be looking for a room share as I did at Gettysburg. But not all of us have incomes that warrant staying at such a pricey venue. Yeah, yeah, yeah - it's vacation time, etc, etc, etc. Bottom line in my case is if I don't find a room share I'll be reading about the meet, not attending it. And I'm sure there are a number of husband/wife members who may pass this one up.
And before anybody asks me what I'd consider a reasonable price - I'd say around $100 a night.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
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I would agree with Alex ,why the sudden change. The negotiated price at the national has generaly been $85-$90 long as I have been a member.
I drive along the interstate and see hotels signs for $50 a night . Are they just not "Up to our standards" ? ?
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Alex, with all due respect I have to disagree. The problem most everyone in the club is that prognostications are taken from membership with regards to interest in Hudsons. This is short sighted in that the premise is that everyone who owns a Hudson is in the club. Therefore if the club has a lack of younger members then there is a drop in interest in Hudsons. I can tell you personally that I sell a LOT of Hudson parts to younger members who are not in the HET and have no interest in joining. They're interested in the car not the organization. They are rodders, restorers and customizers all over the US and to some extent Europe. As for Gettysburg,well here's my take : there were about 100 cars,mostly well restored . Prices were high on the side of hotel costs but thats all over, like the price of gas. How about we move the date for a National to May or October. I know , I know it's written in stone: it must be a least 100 degrees and in the middle of the Summer or it's not a National. Maybe the younger potential members don't like that. As for the cost of pricing of the cars keeping members out. Have you seen the prices on late sixties Mopar muscle cars lately? No bargains anywhere anymore. Cash for clunkers and a rotten economy took care of that. Purely supply and demand. OK I'm off the soap box.
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I don't think we should take the price paid for an occasional rare and valuable Hudson to mean that prices on all Hudsons are high. That's simply not the case ... look at ads in the WTN ... lots of nice cars there for decent prices. Of course the nicest ones command a good price ... what's new about that? As for hotel prices, I think the ones we're hearing for 2014 and beyond are definitely pushing the limit. That said, consider what kind of facilities we need for a National Meet ... lots of rooms, lots of car parking and flea market space. It pretty well demands a "convention center" hotel, and they're not located in the vast countryside but in metropolitan areas where prices are higher. It's a real challenge to find a suitable place with tolerable prices. John Sherlock and team worked with the Wyndham for a really long time before getting them down to the prices we paid there (and BTW, there were about 180 cars attending). The possible dates for a National have been broadened now to May through September, so that's less of a problem than it used to be. And remember the standard argument against these earlier and later dates was that many families have kids in school and simply can't get to a National then. This is obviously more of a factor for the younger families that Hudzilla was mentioning.0
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I agree that you pay for what you get, but how is it that hotels are charging more and more, at a time when peoples' income levels are static? I'm self employed and wish I could simply raise my rates continually!
By the way, my remedy for high room rates is simply to get as many roomies as I can, to share the cost.0 -
Somehow my latest post on motel/hotel rates disappeared - probably didn't post it right.
But, in answer to Roger Tallent. Having been involved with planning a national meet I realize that consideration has to be made for meeting room spaces, club store space, hospitality room space and an estimate of how many people are going to need rooms. $50 motels along the interstate are not going to have the space that is needed.
But do we need to plan an (Inter)national in a high priced resort?? I cannot help but wonder what the planners of the 2014 (Inter)national were thinking. Surely there are other venues in the Southern Indiana area that are a tad cheaper, say around $100 a night.
Some members, like me, are on fixed incomes - if I can't find another single to share the room I'll be reading about the meet, rather than attend it. As Jon B points out get as many roomies as he can to share cost. I know, I know - the thinking is that this is also a vacation trip so save up for the accomodations. But $149 (and the back-up hotel is $174) is still a hefty chunk of change for many people.
I will be interested to see just how many people don't come to the 2014 meet because of the very high cost.0 -
I have suggested addional roomies but my regular "roomie" frowns on the idea. ~X( The event moves around the country in part so you can still attend one every couple of years if you can't afford to be at all of them.0
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The fact that I told her we had booked a King Size bed did not seem to improve my argument.
Other things I have learned to never say in 38 years:
When your wife picks you up - "My ride's here."
"I can't come to the meet because I'm babysitting my kids."0 -
Okay if you are going to complain lets get it correct. The rooms are $139 plus the 9% tax, just as Gettysburg had. Now lets look at what your getting for your $. Frenchlick will be your destination, there will no need to leave unless you chose. There will not be any need for a lot of tours, it is all available in Frechlick. Train rides, golf, horse back riding, swimming, spas, hiking, and that is just a few off the top of my head. There will be affordable places for food or fancy dinners if you chose. So please lets not focus on the negative, lets look to see how we may be able to come up with the little extra cash for another great Hudson International Meet. Bring your extra Hudson parts and sell your wares, etc. Besides has the Southern Indiana Chapter ever hosted a meet you did not enjoy?!
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"The fact that I told her we had booked a King Size bed did not seem to improve my argument.
Other things I have learned to never say in 38 years:
When your wife picks you up - "My ride's here."
"I can't come to the meet because I'm babysitting my kids." "
LOL!! Well, at least it didn't take you 38 years to learn it in the first place!!
. . . my ride's here . . . . that's a riot.0 -
2014 ? We'll be there no matter what.0
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I thought this discussion was about the Really Cool Custom Station wagon which I would have loved to own, real or not. This discussion of French Lick, ID should be on a separate thread.
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You are correct hudsonsoul -
1941 Hudson wrote "Okay if you are going to complain lets get it correct. The rooms are $139 plus the 9% tax, just as Gettysburg had."
Don't know about you, 1941 Hudson, but I booked at $119 - taxes bumped it up to $129 - in Gettysburg. And the $149 French Lick Resort price was what was on the handout Sue Kennedy handed out at the business meeting. Add taxes, etc, to that will probably get hefty.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN0 -
hudsonsoul-
Well, it's sort of still all relevant . . . the main topic is that everything has gotten too expensive to afford, whether it's car's, Nationals, hotel rooms, etc. But, you're right, should be on another thread.0 -
My error - I read 1941Hudson's post wrong. Had the impression that he paid $139 at Gettysburg. I also got $149 stuck in my head re Sue Kennedy's handout.
The $139 is correct for French Lick.
My apologies for the error.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN0 -
It could be worse!
As I sit in my hotel room here in Quito, Ecuador, I think of the many conference attendees who booked into the same hotel (Radisson )that we are at after the host hotel was full. They are paying $149 a night plus a 12% VAT and a 10% hotel tax! Because we booked directly with the hotel, we are paying $119 for Mon - Thurs. and $101 for Fri - Sun. plus 22%. Our buffet breakfast was $36 for two (OUCH)!. You also have the added advantage of speaking to most of the hotel employees and nearby restaurant waiters in English.
Yes. $139 a night is a lot of money for a room especially for some HET members. But the same holds true for people looking for a good condition stepdown. If you couldn't afford it in 2000, you probably can't afford it now!
1941Hudson is correct! I've never attended a Southern Indiana Chapter sponsored meet that wasn't top-notch all the way.
My soapbox just broke.
Kevin C.
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I have not attended a national before, but I am from Evansville Ind. just down the road from french lick, We have a lot of hotels, and we are in driving distants. I did not get the dates,
we are a bigger town, about 140k pop. also louisville ky. is not far to the east, I 64, I wonder if we could get one of the many rod clubs in town to have a show here one day? Just wondering.
Baby Huey65
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Do not think my wife would agree to roomates at a National Meet! Figure out the room rates with food , airfaire, rental cars ect.If your driving cross country the price of gas really adds up, plus staying at motels along the way. At least a couple grand or more for us. Good to know some people in this economy have plenty of extra money!0
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It's an expensive hobby. Getting more expensive all the time and few and fewer people who know how to, or physically can fix and maintain the cars. As a younger member (I'm 34 now) I'm not likely to go to the banquet, or any tours that are not Hudson related unless they interest me regardless. I'd rather see a no-frills National in an open field with lots of tents or a shady area and lots of tech - training sessions. I realize that you have to have other activities or else family will curse your very name for dragging them to this boring thing. LOL
What I've learned being in this club is we're more of a confederation than an organization because getting us to agree on stuff is like herding cars. We don't have any real collective initiatives outside of the WTN and if you asked for everyone to put in money to do something in the name of Hudson preservation it would never happen. Plus any member will tell you if you could shave $500 off costs of being at the national they could then use it to put back into their Hudson in parts. Bottom line though is it's an expensive hobby and the station wagon that went up for auction proves it. At some point you just have to accept it or find a cheaper hobby.0
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