So where are all the 39's then
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Pete -- re: the "lost" '39 Country Club conv. brougham in Indiana:
I am looking at photographic slide I took in the summer of '67 at an old car show in Washington Court House, Ohio, between Dayton and Columbus). The slide is of a yellow '39 Hudson convertible (the "big" Hudson with lights in fenders) with a black top. It's a brougham (rear quarter window). I seem to recall (whew! it's been 45 years, have mercy...) that it was a Country Club. It has FOUR bumper guards on front. I was a DeSoto guy at the time but this caught my attention.
So....would this have been the car you recall, maybe even Hortons?
Wish I could post it but have no idea how to convert a slide to jpg. Plus, I now live out in the country amongst the cows so have limited photographic resources...0 -
@Krille If you email me the picture I can put it up for you. Email to SUBTERFUGEsf@classiccar.com
Remove SUBTERFUGE for real address.0 -
Jon - that is undoubtedly it, I mean how many of them are there, anywhere??????
I've got the photo I took that includes it, will try to put it in here but, altho it is in color, is very small, like 2" X 2".0 -
on the back of the photo Nancy wrote that it was taken in Huntington in '66.0
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Jon - cropped it, enlarged it, let's see how it came out (note the big yellow fog lights on the front, should help tell if it's the same one you photographed)0
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hurray for me, LOL - here's the whole photo with Horton's '35 H8 conv. in front with the '39 CC conv. & parade of other Hudsons0
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this indicates to me that the famed Transcontinental Run was in '66.
Wonder how many of the original participants are still with us?
I remember Pete & Nancy Jones drove a '53 H conv., Wayne Wehrle drove a PU, and Nancy, myself, and our friend herded a '33 T8 sd. (John found, fixed up, and drove it from Portsmouth, N.H. to Huntington where he joined us & the 3 of us continued all the way to Calif.).0 -
One guy who drove the TCR is Richard Polese, who writes a recurring column for the WTN. It would be fun to do an exhaustive article on the event (rather than a cursory mention in his column), I bet you could get some people to reminisce & contribute photos. We actually (I think) have MOVIES taken along the way by Doc! Why not write Richard and offer your services to assemble a reminiscence?
Yes, that is definitely the "mystery car" because of the four bumper guards (and my photo seems to show spotlights too). But it doesn't help us know where it is now! Undoubtedly it survived because it was already an unusual and well restored antique in '67.0 -
@Krille
Hi Kristoffer , that looks real nice!
Thanks for the parts update ; let's see what the Postal Service comes back with0 -
Pete: okay, this information has just arrived from a little bird in Indianapolis....
The '39 yellow convertible did in fact belong to Carl Horton until about 1971, when it was sold to someone in Ohio. It's been rumored that it now resides New York State, owned by someone by the name of Faust who is not a Club member.0 -
OK Jon, glad to know it's still in existance.
I know Pete Jones was taking movies of the Run but whether he still has them or not I don't know (he was Club President for several years while I was Treasurer - saw him in '09 at National).0 -
Ok, yes, I'm going to answer several questions which were slanted my way in one fell swoop. Yes, that's a '38 CC8 Cv Cp sitting next to my '39 CC8 Cv Cp. I don't own the '38, but isn't it so cool that two such very rare cars are sitting side by side in a resto shop? I think so. As to my car, yes, it had a floor shift when I got it, but it was delivered with the column shift. You have to remember that the '39 would have been driven through the war years. I'm sure the shift linkage for the column shift just became unusable over such a long period and the owner made do as best he could. All of the senior series cars in '39 came with column shift. Senior series meaning the Country Club cars. I think that the regular Hudson line up was also standard with column shift. I am not sure about the commercial vehicles and the 112's. Yes, Richard, I've posted the pictures before, but its a website that I add to from time to time. And I thought that there were probably new folks on the forum who hadn't seen the car. The car Pete Booz and others are discussing, the California Cream CC8 Cv Br was Carl Horton's car. There are a handful of Country Club Cv Broughams around, but as far as we've been able to determine, there are no other CC8 Cv Coupes in the states. There is a CC Cv. Cp in Sweden, but I do not know if it's a 6 or an 8. I bought my car from John Soneff 30 years ago in Denver. Should have had it done by now, but other Hudson products got put in front of it. I have driven the '39 CC8 Sd which is in Eldon Hostetler's collection as it used to belong to my dad. It's unbelievable that such a large car could handle so well. The steering on these cars is light and positive. The brakes are superior and the power to weight ration on the 8's is outstanding. The styling isn't everyone's cup of tea. I happen to really really like it. I will say that had my car been a Convertible Brougham, I would not have bought it. I personally don't like the little quarter windows and shorter deck that the Broughams had. The Convertible coupe was just a sportier looking car in my eye and that is what appeals to me.0
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Trivia - around 1938 Hudson, along with others, went to a column shift. There after they started advertizing their cars as "6 passenger" models. Previously cars were "5 Passenger" because it was awkward to have 3 passengers in the front seat with a floor shift.
Unless you were out on a date........................
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN0 -
Thanks, ArkieJazz for posting the info. Sent you a PM.0
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RL, I never received your PM. You can email me at grumpyoldgroucharkiejazz@aol.com
remove the grumpyoldgrouch.0 -
For some reason PM"S dont allways go thru. Look under "Activity" when you log in as they are sometimes hidden there for you ,
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Roger--
Sent you a PM.0 -
just posted on my website front view of the '39 CC 8 bus. cp. I restored0
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the upholstery on this was all very nice & original too0
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That' s a sharp car. Did the BCpe's have access all the way into the trunk?0
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no, had an upholstered package panel.
I always thought the Victoria coupes interesting, have photo of one with completely original interior in the back.0 -
According to a closely connected source, that "lost" '39 CC Cv Brougham was purchased from the original owner's family in 1962 by Carl Horton. The car had been domiciled in the Jacksonville, Florida area and was a bit rusty around the edges. The car was originally a black 6 cylinder. Mr. Horton trailered the car back to Indiana and restored it in California Cream which was an original factory offering in 1939.0
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Arkie, that's impossible. I know for a fact the factory closed in '54. By '62, no more colors were available!
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typed the wrong year. now corrected0
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just posted photos of '39 CC 6 Victoria cp. to website - interesting as was originally sold in S. Africa but now in England - has leather upholstery, dual sidemounts, and as a Victoria cp. the little rear compartment has jump seats0
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