Transmission Problem

TOM-WA-
TOM-WA- Senior Contributor
edited September 2012 in HUDSON
I have a 3 speed dual shifter transmission in my 54 wasp. With the engine turned OFF I can easily shift it into all
gears, but with with engine running I cant shift it from neutral into ANY gear..it just grinds.

What is the problem here..This just happened and up until a few days ago it was operating WELL



THANKS,



TOM-WA-

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  • Marconi
    Marconi Senior Contributor
    Try adjusting your clutch. It sounds like it's not fully releasing.
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    It could be that the rubber pads have dropped out of the actuating arm between the pedal and the throw-out shaft.
  • TOM-WA-
    TOM-WA- Senior Contributor
    jEFF:

    Ok is this something external on the transmission or clutch or are they internal parts and where are they located?
  • EssexAdv
    EssexAdv Expert Adviser, Member
    edited September 2012
    Tom, the pads are on the shaft which goes between the frame and the bell housing on the drivers side of the transmission. They are about as big around as a half dollar and have nubs which hold them one. If you look at the shaft it will have 2 ears... kinda like mickey mouse ears. See J2-30 on attachment

    Lew
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Sounds to me like the clutch may be stuck to the flywheel. Try putting it in gear , putting on the brake so car wont move . Hold clutch in and "bump" the starter ,see if that breakes it loose,
    Roger
  • TOM-WA-
    TOM-WA- Senior Contributor
    I am afraid that my clutch is stuck to the flywheel...I have tried to adjust it and also tried to bump the starter and the car still moves when in gear and the clutch pedal is to the floor.

    Any other suggestions other than removing the clutch..I hate the thought of that job again on my 54 Wasp....going thru the floor is a pain in the pittuti!!!
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Well if you are brave you can get it out in the clear in the drive or road. Get the motor warmed up and shut it down , put it in gear and start the car with it in first gear and clutch in. Keep clutch in and accelerate hard and let off quick - repeat if neessassry. This generaly pulls them loose.
    Some folks will say dont do it because you will damage the cork. Well if this does'nt work the and you have allready tried cleaning it and new fluid then its gotta come appart anyhow .
    So you have nothing to loose far as I can see , Has worked for me many time s,
    Roger
  • TOM-WA-
    TOM-WA- Senior Contributor
    If I put the car in gear and try to start it even with the Clutch IN I cant get it to start cause
    its in gear and the clutch is stuck to the flywheel?..Am I missing something here?
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    Once you have it cleared then remember to leave the engine idling, with the clutch depressed, and in gear, for about 20 seconds before you turn the engine off. Allows fluid to get in between the surfaces
  • lostmind
    lostmind Expert Adviser
    Drain the fluid out and fill the clutch with acetone and lacquer thinner combo
    and let it set over night with the clutch pedal depress. If it's stuck to the flywheel this should release it. Drain and add proper amount of clutch oil.
    You may have a mechanical problem,like the pins sheard in clutch shaft. Is there resistance when you push on the pedal?
  • kamzack
    kamzack Senior Contributor
    Per Roger's explaination.
    Position car so you have 2 to 300 feet ahead of you. Put it in first gear, push clutch in and start it. It will start if all is well with engine. Keep clutch pedal dpressed, increase speed slightly, and jam on the brakes. Repeat til it breaks loose or as Roger says, gonna have to come apart any way. Something's gotta give. I've used this techigue on several vehicles over the years including a Ford tractor that had been submerged in a flood.
    As far as pulling transmission out, may not seem like it, but pulling engine, trans out as a unit is easier.
    Kim
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Good way to shear the spider gear pin and then you have big problems. Remove the trans and install a new set up and enjoy the ride. Then when you park the car for 3 days or longer, make a stick to keep the clutch pedal on the floor and you will never have a stuck clutch again. Walt.
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