pulling a airstream trailer with a hornet

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  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    It's a second attempt ... you don't wanna see the first one!
  • Oh , I see .. .. ..
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    Now, I have to tell this really scary story: Making our first move with the trailer and the axle hitch, we'd traveled an entire day and into the night. At about 10 PM, in Atlanta somewhere, we somehow got off the truck route and I needed to reverse course. There was an empty supermarket parking area so I swung the Hornet in there and started a slow turnaround. There was a little strange noise from the rear, then a big "clunk." Egad, the trailer had separated! Stopping and inspecting, I saw what had actually happened --- the hitch assembly had separated from the car. Sounds like no really big deal, but my thoughts immediately went back to just a few minutes earlier when we'd been climbing a several block long hill there in the city. If that hitch would have separated then .... Yikes! OK, back to the hitch ... why had it come off? Contary to the depiction above, the two u-bolts, rather than going through holes in the heavy mount plate, actually straddled the plate and went through a strap-plate under the mount plate. With the day's driving, those u-bolts had stretched a little, enough that they simply worked their way off the end of the main mount plate (I noted that a few months later, ads for that hitch showed some little tabs at the end of the mount plate such that the u-bolts couldn't slide off the ends!). OK, so my hitch is on the ground, and it's 10:15 in January ... darker than a black hole. A police car came by to see what was going on and used its spotlight to let me see while getting everything disconnected. We lifted the hitch into the trunk and drove a couple of blocks to an all night gas station with a lift. They kindly let me put the Hornet in the air to reattach the hitch ... firmly!

    It would take another three pages to tell about the rest of the trip. This was just the more exciting part. The entire journey held a few more surprises and was a real test of our six-week old marriage!
  • duncan
    duncan Expert Adviser
    Park please keep the story going.This is some of the stories that we need to have on here
    Stories of driving our Hudson's Adventures in a Hudson. Is the main mounting plate that bolts to bottom of diff supposed to by clamped tight or have a little play to move up and down. Ray
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    Ray, the main mount plate was clamped tight to the axle housing. I've drawn the drawbar bolting directly to the mount plate, but there may have been some arrangement where it could move vertically. I seem to remember that the "hitch ball end" of the drawbar would drop to the ground if it wasn't supported by the little chain from the bumper or by being hooked up to the trailer tongue.
  • Park, I saved a copy of the drawing. I have already showed to my brother who builds custom stuff for motorcycles. He told me he can have one nearly ready next time I come home.

    Wife would like to get a modern version of the old-style, "Canned Ham" camper after our military retirement. I shared that the Hudson can pull one and she got a sparkle in her eye.
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    edited September 2012
    PM500, are we acquainted? What's your job in the military? What branch?
    Former Lifer!
  • [Deleted User]
    edited September 2012
    Park_W, We have never met but you have helped my get my '50 Pacemaker back on the road since I took possession in 2006 by providing a lot of information on this Forum.

    I did 15 years in the Army - got out in 95 with the Clinton reduction. My wife is also Army, Reserves mostly but got called up in 2003 and we stayed. She now faces Promotion or MRD.

    I spent all my time at Fort Ben Harrison, IN except when I left for training. With my wife's call, we have been to Ft. Leonard Wood, MO, a Reserve Unit in Johnstown, PA, "Over there", and currently at the Pentagon.

    My brother is going to modify the hitch so that it is more robust on the axel and stiffer. He is working seeing if he can incorporate square tube all way out like a receiver.
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    See private personal msg. On the hitch, it occurred to me that a better design would be a wishbone-like structurre so the two main legs would attach to the axle out very near to the springs, so as not to apply weight in the center of the axle housing and bend it, which happened on my '55 Chrysler. The single leg of the wishbone would then terminate in a Class III receptacle. This structure would make the drawbar assembly more stable laterally without requiring really heavy attachments as needed on the original long drawbar to the heavy main mount plate. The whole thing could be made lighter.
  • duncan
    duncan Expert Adviser
    Hi Park Is the weight of the trailer sitting on the ball and axle hitch held up by the spring arms and chains. and does this take care of the trailer swinging back and forth causing sway and jacknife situations without the lateral bars near the diff. Are they also called stabilizer bars.When I used to farm there was times I forgot to pin the drawbar and when I started going down the road at full speed the impliment I was pulling would start to whip big time so need something to keep the axle hitch from doing that. Ray
  • I understand the idea and I will send it forth to my brother.
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    Ray, some of the equalizer hitch bars do have anti-sway features on them. I don't think mine had any.
  • BHLHH52
    BHLHH52 Expert Adviser
    edited September 2012
    This is the 48 Commodore 8 that my brother-in law used in the 50s & 60s for his 2 horse trailer, usually with 2 horses in it. He went all over Utah with it. I have no idea as to the hitch set-up but do remember the springs clamped on the rear shocks. Its amazing what the old Hudsons use to do. BL
  • lsfirth
    lsfirth Expert Adviser
    Hi Park,

    Yes, nice sketch.....I now understand how it functions - quite simple and ingenious actually. Keep in mind that the full weight of the tongue is still on the rear bumper with this design. But you have de-coupled the fore-aft loading (acceleration/deceleration) from the bumper to the very sturdy rear suspension. So I'd say this design gains you a little advantage in that not all the loads go through the bumper/rear-frame. But I would say that if the tongue weight was an issue to begin with, this design may not help much, but half the problem with the Hudsons is that there's just not much to attach a regular hitch to back there....so could be a big help in that regard! Very cool - and the stories...thanks for posting!!!

    Lee
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    Isfirth, there is NO weight on the bumper because there's no attachment to the bumper. All the weight gloes onto the axle housing. The little chain I drew is only used to hold the hitch up when there's no trailer attached.
  • lsfirth
    lsfirth Expert Adviser
    Hi Park....yes as mentioned in the PM, I think the only way there wouldn't be (or much less)load on the chain would be if there were load leveler bars which I didn't see in the sketch. Otherwise the moment arm would be too long coming clear back from the rear end. The leaf springs are not stiff enough to react that much torsion thereby causing an overly-soft attachment to the tongue. Or I could be totally missing something....which is very possible since I'm definitely not familiar with this type of hitch.

    Lee
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    Load on the chain? What chain? The one described is only used when there's no trailer connected, to support the end of the hitch. My text discusses that there must be load-leveler (equalizer) bars used. And the leaf springs are not involved ... weight goes directly on the axle.
  • Park, I guess I'm missing what is supporting the trailer? Are the U-bolts clamped solidly to the axle?
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    Yes.
  • Sarah Young
    Sarah Young Senior Contributor
    edited September 2012
    Here's a pic of the tow hitch Ken Cates installed on his '53 Wasp. The hitch is welded to the rear bumper center section and the backing is mounted with reinforcements behind the bumper bar. The reinforcements are also bolted to the rear of the unity body. I don't know how big of a trailer he towed with this setup, though.
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