Need help restoring my hudson.

Comm6
Comm6 Expert Adviser
edited September 2012 in HUDSON
Hi everyone I am in need of some very much needed help I am trying to restore a 1949 Hudson Commodore 6. The car itself is in great condition a california car lived in barstow cal. Most of its life. Matching numbers block to vin. My issue is I cannot for the life of me find weatherstripping for this car. It is in the shop being sanded down to be painted and redoing the interior carpet seats door panels headliner and trunk. Can someone tell me what size and or type is good aftermarket wise from steelrubber or soffseal any help would be very very greatley appreciated.
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  • super-six
    super-six Expert Adviser
    edited September 2012
    I used Pn. 5036 ST from Old Dog Street Rods which worked very well for the doors but I don't see it listed on their website. Give them a call at 866-291-1940 and see if it's still available. I used trunk weatherstripping from KGAP.
  • If you have not done so yet ,you need to join the HET national club and the local club in your area........I too am restoring a Hudson and with out the imformation of other Hudsonite's your indevers will be much harder.. Most of all of the venders are listed in each monthly publication...
  • VicTor Z
    VicTor Z Senior Contributor
    http://socalhet.org/ Check out this web site!
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    Thanks so much for all the input will check those places out . Will post pics as soon as I find out how.
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    Here's my on-line list of repro parts made especially for Hudsons. http://www.detailedconcepts.net/Repro_Table.pdf In the first few pages you'll find a list (with web links) of companies or individuals who maintain businesses that offer a large line of Hudson parts; you can contact them for catalogs. The rest of my list covers repro parts made by individuals who just make one or a handful of Hudson parts (so therefore don't print catalogs or have webpages).

    K-Gap makes a lot of rubber and plastic parts especially for Hudsons. They have gotten behind in shipping items, lately, due to an illness in the family, but they're in the L.A. area so you could conceivably drive in to pick it up (assuming they have it in stock).
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    One more question. I found weatherstripping for doors and trunk to a 49 desoto, chrysler, plymouth will that be somewhat compatible you think? Thanks again.
  • bartibog1
    bartibog1 Expert Adviser
    not sure of desoto. this is what i used. works really well. enter product number 93085k89 and find button. it has pricing listed and a way to order on site.
    http://www.mcmaster.com/#rubber-bulb-seals/=jfq2qs
  • You will find some of the Hudson door and trunk seals are common types and even JC Whitny has it in thier catalog by shape if you have a sample to go by. The Window channels not a problem a club member (see his ad in WTN) makes them.
    The real big problem is windshied seals front and rear, The Full Line stuff is comming back soon as Dr. Doug gets it situated so that should help,
    Roger
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    Thank u very much bartibog1 that looks like it will work both on the trunk and doors... Thanks again!!
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    I know rockauto has the vent window weatherstripping my rear wimdow is good the front windows I need. Thanks for all responses I never thought parts would be this hard to find this is my first restoration and im very glad I have all the chrome pieces that you cannot find anywhere.
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    New rubber is a little tough right now for Hudsons, as it takes a little homework, and several suppliers. Hopefully, in the near future, this restoration aspect will become easier.

    As far as chrome or stainless (anything else for your Hudson) goes, you CAN find any part you need. It just depends on how much you want to network, and how patient you are. I've spent up to 6 years looking for the correct parts for my car. They're out there, you just have to know where to look.
  • bartibog1
    bartibog1 Expert Adviser
    make sure you use a good cleaner before you try to install the weatherstrip
    steve
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    This is my hudson... Thanks for the input steve ordered the weatherstripping today... Now my battery is dead due to the shop painting the vehicle and leaving somthing on. I have the original 6v system how do you jump or charge the batt??
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
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    Comm6 Expert Adviser
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  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    Will keep u all posted when vehicle is painted and restored. I'm sure I will have a dozen or more questions as I go along thanks.
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    If you have the better part of a day, you can hook a small trickle charger to your battery to recharge it. If you don't own one, it would be a good investment. Here's one at Walmart for about $20: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Schumacher-SpeedCharge-Battery-Maintainer-and-Charger/13005742

    Be sure to buy the "automatic" type, also called a battery maintainer, which shuts off when the battery's charged and doesn't overcharge it. Some of these are "manual" -- you must disconnect them when the battery is charged, so you can't just leave them and forget them.

    BE SURE to buy one that gives you 6 or 12 volts.

    I would advise you to disconnect one of the car's cables from the battery while doing this. There is a chance that there is a short circuit in your car, and that (not the shop) is why your battery's dead. So you don't want to go through all the work of charging the battery only to have it go dead again!

    If you don't have the time, take the battery out of the car and over to a service station and ask them to charge the battery. But you'd be better off buying a charger yourself....you'll use it many times over the years!
  • You should be able to get regular 6-12 volt battery chargers at Harbor Freight,
    Roger
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    The wiring all looks good just tried starting it and it would crank and would not start till it ran out of juice to turn over.
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    I might not of had it on the correct position when I was trying to start it the person I purchased it from had mentioned it had to be in gear to start and not to take the key out of the ignition and leave it on the ON position or it will drain the battery. Does this sound about right??
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    Thanks for the info on the charger Jon B. and Roger.
  • Well leaving it in the ON position dont sound right. Makes no sense that it had to be in gear to start either unless its an automatic and the nutral switch is out of adjustment. If its a stick shift maybe the clutch tends to stick and this would break it loose . Otherwise you would start car and not beable to put it in gear. I put up with a 48 Commodore like that for about 10,000 miles before replacing the clutch. If you do have issues with battery drain get a switch for the battery cable till you figure it out. Just turn it off and disconnect from car when you park it , That way nothing will drain the juce when it sits,
    Roger
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    I think you are right there is a issue with the clutch it was not that the battery was dead it was all the times I tried to crank it witch was about 10 times more or less till it just had no juice unless the battery was weak already... Either way im going to have the battery checked if its good I will recharge it and if it is bad will replace it. Same with the clutch I have not driven the car much except from the tow truck up and then back down to park it so I will check and change all my fluids and so on see if that helps any.
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    By the way what type of engine, transmission, and clutch oil is best for these cars??? I was told 20w50 motor oil the rest have no clue I have a 3 speed on the tree manual trans.
  • 54SuperWasp
    54SuperWasp Expert Adviser
    Wow! Your car looks good already as is! Even the engine bay is quite nice. You made a very good buy I would say. And thanks for the pics, we love pics! Michel
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    edited September 2012
    Thanks michel.
  • 20 /50 oil would be OK ,I see you have a filter so you can use modern oils,
    Roger
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    What about the transmission fluid or clutch fluid what type would work???
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    The clutch takes "Hudsonite" fluid. There are a couple of different types out there, the old original and the modern improved. The old original is brewed up by a friend of mine but he hasn't made any for awhile so you should probably get the new improved from Doug Wildrick. Doug sells clutch parts too. His website is at http://www.wildrickrestoration.com/home.php . Six ounces will do the job, and he sells it in six ounce bottles.

    The Hudson club sells it too, but only if you're a member: http://clubstore.biz/

    I understand you can use some type of automatic transmission fluid as a substitute, possibly someone will jump in here with that specification.

    The transmission would (I think) take the same as the rear end, which is to say gear oil. I use type GL-4, 140 wt. in my Terraplane transmission, but used to use whatever was on the shelf at my local auto supply. Someone may have a recommendation for your "more modern" Hudson.
  • Comm6
    Comm6 Expert Adviser
    Yes you are correct no overdrive the horn is not connected and yes I dont beleive the wiring is all original it looks too good to be that old it also has a turn signal.
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