A 1933 Essex

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edited October 2012 in HUDSON
Today we went to Carl Weber's meet in North Attleboro, MA. Great to see all the old friends and wonderful cars. There was a young man with a 1933 Essex sedan that had been put into a barn in 1950. Someone had rebuilt the engine several years ago but had not re-installed it. This man had put the engine back in and had got it running sweetly, but as he drove to Carl"s today, after two miles it overheated, so he had to trailer it. Those two miles are the first miles it has traveled since 1950. He wants to keep it as original as possible.

Geoff Blake

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  • StillOutThere
    StillOutThere Expert Adviser
    Pictures?
  • faustmb
    faustmb Senior Contributor
    edited October 2012
    I'm guessing this was Mark Brintnall, he posted here recently with some pictures of his car. Looks like a great car and they're doing a nice job with it.
  • StillOutThere
    StillOutThere Expert Adviser
    Well part of the reason I ask for pictures is that there were no Essex cars built after spring of 1932 so wanted to see a " 33 Essex ". Am presuming it is the totally new '33 Essex-Terraplane which, if anything, should be called a Terraplane.

    Don't know about anyone else but when I use this site's search feature and try something like " Brintnall Essex " which should bring up the previous thread mentioned, results are usually current threads and irrelevant threads.
  • faustmb
    faustmb Senior Contributor
    edited October 2012
    Here is the original post, about 5 pages back; agreed that the search doesn't usually find what I'm looking for.

    http://www.classiccar.com/forum/discussion/154915/hello#Item_26

    Easy to call it an Essex, as it still says Essex as well as Terraplane, at least on the grill.

    Matt
  • StillOutThere
    StillOutThere Expert Adviser
    Only have to look at the hood ornament badge to verify. A Terraplane 8 cylinder is a world of a different car than a '32 Essex, thus the title of the thread as " 33 Essex" is simply obfuscation.
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    It has those really rare hubcaps that I have on my Roadster Pick Up. I have been told that they were used on the 32's. Whatever, they look nice on this ride as well>
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    Let's not be pedantic. All 1933 cars, apart from the Hudson models, were all badged as "Essex Terraplane" It wasn't until the following year that the Essex name was dropped completely.
  • faustmb
    faustmb Senior Contributor
    Brownie, I think those "Terraplane 8 " hubcaps were 33 only.
  • StillOutThere
    StillOutThere Expert Adviser
    So Geoff C., is faustmb being pedantic, as you said I was? Or is he trying to write a teachable moment, which was my unappreciated intent. Just curious so as to guide any future posts I may consider making.
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    edited October 2012
    Essex nameplate up to July 23, 1932 - Essex-Terraplane July 1932 thru 1933. Then to toss a monkey wrench into the works Hudson alternated between Essex-Terraplane and Terraplane thru 1932. There are pictures of a 1932 roadster captioned "Terraplane Roadster". There are two men in the picture - one is Horace Dodge, I've forgotten who the other is.
    The 1933 Essex-Terraplane Eight is a whole different ball game - a true one off.
    Confusing.

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    "Brownie, I think those "Terraplane 8 " hubcaps were 33 only."

    The car has the hubcaps that only say Essex on them. I have a few of the Terraplane 8 hubcaps in the process of restoration and I agree, I think they were only used on the 33's?
  • faustmb
    faustmb Senior Contributor
    edited October 2012
    That makes sense, I wasn't sure what picture you were referencing. I see both types now, and i learned something new. Did the hubcaps fit right on your Ford wheels? I have a homemade trailer with Ford wire wheels I want to put Essex caps on.
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    I purchased a set of 1932 Essex four bolt wheels for my Roadster Pick up. I used an adapter for them to bolt on to the disc brake setup. Sorry I did not rotate the photo. I took it today so I could use some of the photo's for an article on restoration of the early three part wire wheel hub caps.
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    My point was that all 1933 models were badged Essex Terraplanes, and yet over the years people have insisted that they were just Terraplanes. The Terraplane name was the only badge on 1934 to 1937 cars, apart from the rear trunk badge and hubcaps on the '37models which said "Terraplane Hudson", and in '38 they called it the "Hudson Terraplane".
    I didn't mean to offend anyone, and sorry if I did.
  • Geoff has it correct, Walt.
  • StillOutThere
    StillOutThere Expert Adviser
    Here is the badge that fits on either side of the 1934 Terraplane hood ornament bird. It may not say Essex but that is the Essex hexagon. The '34 Terraplane rear bumper overriders ("guards") have a hexagon stamped in them. The tail light lens fluting pattern inside the glass forms a hexagon as well. All that still in 1934.

    But my real point is this; The engineering of the 1932 and earlier Essex cars is old fashioned buried as contrasted to the new-for-32 1/2 Terraplane cars (yeah, granted, the marketing department got their way and they are Essex-Terraplanes).

    Whether we delve into body construction (no more wood structure), or frame design (totally new for the Terraplane with a state-of-the-art belled lightening hole X-member) or the drive train units from engine to transmission to rear axle all simply vastly lightened and improved in the '32 and later Terraplane cars. It is a gross misrepresentation of history and a slap in the face of the Hudson engineering team to associate a '33 Terraplane with its earlier Essex family of cars.

    This is the IMPORTANT stuff that gets brushed aside and leaves the door open to hot rodders to find an early Terraplane, see nothing more than the pretty sweeping lines of a coupe, coach or sedan and say "How cool a hot rod is that thing gonna make".

    I'm VERY proud of what Hudson Motors accomplished with the new Terraplane line starting in 1932 and then copied to the Hudson models in 1934. I promote these cars every chance I get writing text for web pages, stories for web masters, posting pictures for the rest of the hobby, answering blog questions, and even working with a fellow who has been developing a book on automotive frame construction who had virtually no understanding of the Terraplane and Hudson belled X frames, unit-body construction of 1932, and eventually also worked through the Monobilt stepdowns. I believe in every collector car owner acquiring knowledge to be able to promote his marque(s).
  • My goodness, StillOutThere, I didn't mean to get you all riled up. I am aware that the 1933s were Essex Terraplanes, but I was just using a little shorthand. Besides, I once had a 1931 Essex and I am rather partial to the name.
    It is a great car by any name.

    Geoff Blake
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