single lever transmission
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I have 2 transmissions, one is a hydramatic and the other is a 2 lever. I would like to trade for a single lever. Does anyone have one they would trade for either of these. I will sell the hydramatic outright, if someone needs it, but does not have a single lever one to trade for. I am trying to get a 47 pickup running. I am in westminster MD. Thanks herman 410-848-5234
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I have 2 transmissions, one is a hydramatic and the other is a 2 lever. I would like to trade for a single lever. Does anyone have one they would trade for either of these. I will sell the hydramatic outright, if someone needs it, but does not have a single lever one to trade for. I am trying to get a 47 pickup running. I am in westminster MD.
Sorry i need to clarify that my 2 lever has overdrive. I am looking for a single lever with overdrive.
Thanks herman 410-848-52340 -
Thanks Rick
I can post pics if anyone needs them. It is the T86E overdrive transmission.0 -
What engine do you have in the truck? If you can find a late 52 or later bell housing you can bolt it up to the engine and use the 2-lever.0
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There remains the requirement to fit the car with the later shift column and shifter rods.0
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you need to kook up with sambone, i think it was. he was looking for a 2 lever and had a single to trade. it several pages back.0
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I would be interested in trading, too, but I'm 3,000 miles away, and my single lever is still in the car. It's an OD, but I don't know if the OD works, because the wiring was gone when I got it. I don't care about the column shift linkage, because the whole point of trading would be for me to put a floor shift in my car.
Guess my question to anyone who knows is, my car is a '48, but the engine is a '51 308. Don't know what the bell housing is. Would the 2 lever transmission fit the bell housing, whichever it is?0 -
Can I do a search for sambone?0
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Nope. The 2-lever bolts to the back outside of the bell housing with 4 bolts. No need to remove the bell housing to change trannys. I changed the Hornet from underneath in the driveway in an hour.
The single lever bolts from the inside of the bell housing with 6 bolts. The splasher and big 6 bell housings will not interchange, but will take all single levers from mid 30s thru mid 52.0 -
i sent sambone a message telling him about it. i will try to post a link to his last thread about 12 pages back. you can email him from there.
http://www.classiccar.com/forum/discussion/161497/quick-308-measurement-needed-can-you-please-help#Item_30 -
Still looking for the single lever tranny. Anyone have a chance to look through their stash. Thanks0
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How about wiring up the overdrive you have? You can find wiring diagrams in your manuals or in Alex Burrs online stuff. 'Taint rocket science, just need juice from the 'battry' thru the relay, kickdown switch, lockout switch, governor, to the solonoid. If you can't do it, there are Hudnuts that would help you.0
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I'd just like to get rid of the column shift, and you can't adapt a floor shifter to the one lever transmission. I do intend to get the OD going, "one of these days". I have several of each of the components, purchased off Ebay, so shouldn't have any problem getting it going.0
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Uncle josh, I am under the impression that the the linkages are my problem. While I am sure I will need help with the wiring, I am comfortable doing that part. I thought the whole 2 lever transmission with od into a truck with a column shifter was my problem. Re inventing the wheel versus direct bolt in with the one lever tranny with od. I have all the parts for a column shifter, but have to fingure out how it all goes together. Does anyone have pictures of how the linkage comes off the transmission?0
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Well, technically, the 'single lever' is actually 2 levers. The one operated conventially with a rod and the other a short one operated by a cable. Should be able to adapt the short one to a floor shifter I'd think.0
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Yeah , I've heard the same thing that it can't be done. But agre with Josh when someone tells me something "Can'T" be done. The first thing I want to do is figure out a way to do it.
After all where there's a will theres a way as they say . Perhaps a modified straight line shifter ?
The rod on the single lever does the movement into positions and the cable shifts the action from the 1st & Reverse slot to 2nd & 3rd .
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So, Herman, you are looking for the single lever (with cable) tranny because your truck came with a single lever shift mechanism, correct? You now have a double lever with OD (which is mid-1952 and up, I believe but need a column shifter that will make it function.
Hudson experts: would a single lever shift lever mechanism from 1952 and up, fit on the '46-7 truck? Also, will it work with a 308 (which, I believe, Herman will be installing in the truck)? I am almost certain it will.
With any luck, Herman can stick with his 2-lever transmission (that's a Borg-Warner, right?) and not have to go around looking for a single-lever (Hudson-built) tranny!
Assuming the 2-lever shift linkage will work for Herman, I think we in Maryland and Virginia can surely come up with one. I'm sure someone in our chapter has a 2-lever shift mechanism you can study, Herman....I just have to scratch my head a minute and think who that would be!
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I understood his objective was to put in a floor shift and maintain overdrive in a Hudson drivetrain. I had one here once that was modified but dont remember who did the mod. The buyer is dead now so dont know what became of it . So it can be done , I seem to recall reverse was the big problem to get around,
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Thanks for all the comments. I will continue to research this. Pics would be nice, if anyone has them. Thanks0
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Years ago I bought a shifter kit from Honest Charlie for my Dodge V8 and single lever trans swap into my 34 Ford coupe. It has been done. Sorry that I don't remember the particulars. Bruce0
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I seem to recall it was converted to a topload trany with a Jeep top plate ? ? I dont know that just sounds fammiliar , been a while since I saw it ,
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Herman, was it your desire to convert to a top shifter? (If so, I think that Roger is correct, I just don't know what year Jeep has the correct shift lever. A Hudsonite in West Virginia actually stuffed a '52 Eight into a '35 Hudson, back in the 60's or 70's and plugged a floor shifter right into it, so I can ask him which one to use.)
But on the other hand, if you simply want to adapt your 2-lever trans. to a column mounted gearshift (but you currently have the "cable shift" on the truck), there must be a way to do that too.
I just need to make sure I know what it is you're hoping to do.0 -
I re-rerad the post and looks like I mis understood. The question seems to be would the step down single lever overdrive unit fit where a 46-47 3 speed non overdrive had been.
I have looked at those three speed transmissions and they are identical in appreance. They do have different part numbers as I recall however.
I am sure it would bolt up to the motor and the only problems I would see is the possile driveshaft issue and maybe linkage rod. The rod could be to long or short but I doubt it . The drive shaft may need to be shortened. The little cable should reach and hook up the same. The rear motor mount (under trans)too should be in the same place I think,
Sorry I miss read your problem at first,
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Either Overdrive tranny will fit the truck. They are the same dimensions. Tranny mount is in the same position. It's a little tight back by the governor but that should miss the frame by about 1/2 inch. If it's too tight to your liking, cut a piece of frame out.
The OD is 8 1/2 inches longer than the 3 speed so you'll have to have the truck drive shaft shortened unless you can find the shaft from a long wheelbase car that had OD..not very likely.
You might try a shaft from a standard wheelbase car, as the car is 7 1/2 inches shorter than the truck and you need 8 1/2 shorter. I haven't tried this (yet). It'll be close, but Murphy will probably insure there isn't enough clearance in the shaft spline to collapse that far. However, it would be easier to take and inch out rather than 8 1/2.0 -
This is a my first attempt at setting up the floor shifter. Hope someone can provide guidance. It works on the stand. It is too far back. Tested it today and the engine with tranny attached hit the floor. I am not ready to cut the floor as this is only my 1st try. I did not removed the original shift levers because I do not know how. The literature seems confusing. Do I need to remove the top panel and remove a pin to release the lever, or remove the bolt and pry the lever off, without removing the top cover? I did not want to break anything yet.
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Thats quite interesting ,are you going to need to use bucket seats?
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interesting setup. thanks for the pictures. i am not planning on doing it, but i like to see the set up anyway.0
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Not sure about the seat, yet0
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Herman, I guess I misunderstood. Apparently you wanted a floor shifter all along, I thought you were trying to find a column shifter that worked with the 2-lever transmission.
As to the floor shifter: I believe I've been told that a Jeep floor shift lever (with its cover plate) will bolt right into the top of the 52-54 Hudson transmissions. This would put the shift lever much farther forward than it is with the add-on linkage you show. It may be necessary to remove some parts from the transmission innards, to do this. If you are interested in pursuing this, I will phone one of our Hudsonites in W. Va. who did this conversion several years ago, and get the details.0 -
Thanks Jon, you did not misunderstand. I tried to obtain a single lever tranny and could not get one. I decided to still try to move forward using the parts I have. It was suggested that a floor shifter might be easier with the 2 lever tranny. So here we are. Yes please call your friend in W.Va. to see if he can provide specific details. I can find some info on the web, but not the nitty gritty details that would make it clearer, like most have suggested the jeep shifter could work, but which shifter and how to install it are a mystery. Thanks0
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Okay, I'll try to check that out and get specific details for you.
The other alternative is to take a column shift from a '52-54 Hudson, and put it on your truck. This would of course be set up for the '52-54 two-lever transmission. I have been told that you'd have to remove the entire steering column jacket from a '52-54 car, along with the shift linkage, shorten the jacket (to fit your truck) and re-install. Someone may have the steering column jacket or you could salvage it from a junkyard.
I'll keep pursuing the "Jeep option" since that might be a simpler way to go about this.
I just talked to Paul O'Malley who suggested that you may be able to heat-bend that new side-shift lever so it doesn't hit the seat, or fabricate a bracket that comes off the linkage and puts the shift lever further away from the seat.
Please keep in mind that my car is from the thirties so I don't have experience with either the '46-7's or StepDowns -- so I don't claim to be an expert!0
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