Where is my Paintcode?

commodorecollector
commodorecollector Senior Contributor
edited December 2012 in HUDSON
Here is a picture of my 1949 Hudson Commodore 6 Top passenger hinge. Any tips/advice/help would be much appreciated to help find my paint code.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    For your particular year,look for the paint code on your vehicle as a stamped single or a double number or letter if you have a 2 toned paint job. It should be in the vicinity of the upper door hinge on the passenger side door of your car. Sometimes it is stamped on the hinge-sometimes not. Sometimes there is no letter or number code at all. It is NOT on the vin tag on your car.
  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    The four 49's I have had the hinge was stamped, but with rust? make A WILD GUESS.
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    One way would be to obtain paint sample chips, then compound the paint in some hidden area of the car where it wouldn't have been subject to sun damage. Then compare your car's paint to the chips. You could also sand down through the paint if you suspect the car was originally a different color. Paint chips come up on Ebay every once in awhile and some of the Hudson parts vendors sometimes have them for sale.
  • Lee ODell
    Lee ODell Senior Contributor
    You could try sanding the rust off the door hinge. With luck the paint code may appear.
    Lee O'Dell
  • onerare39
    onerare39 Expert Adviser, Member
    Jon B. has the right idea, looks like Peacock Green to me.

    John
  • cpr3333
    cpr3333 Expert Adviser
    My door hinge was pretty rusty too. I sanded it a bit at a time and the code showed up. Problem is, it didn't match the codes on the paint chip set I had. Turns out, it's not Peacock or Oriental green - it's Hawaii green which was a late 1950 addition and included with the 1951 colors on the ACME paint chips. $10 on Ebay and I now have the 1951 set too.

    Check out this webpage - I don't know how complete or correct it is but it seems like a good place to start anyway.

    http://paintref.com/paintref/index.shtml

    John - would Peacock green be original on a '49? The website says no but again, I'm not sure how accurate that would be.

  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    edited December 2012
    There's a list of paint and paint codes in the 1948-1954 Master Parts Catalog that is in the online library (See URL below). It's in the UU section (you can find it quickly by typing in Lacquer in the Find (or search) box).
    Peacock Green is a 1950 color.

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • onerare39
    onerare39 Expert Adviser, Member
    edited December 2012
    Take a look at the 49 paint chip chart at TPC Global and see if you can find you color.

    Savoy Green maybe?

    tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1949-hudson-pg01.jpg

    Here's my unrestored 1950 50A, Peacock Green.

  • commodorecollector
    commodorecollector Senior Contributor
    edited December 2012
    Thank you everyone for the tips and i'll try using a wire brush gently on my hinge to reveal the code.
    Here is a picture of her Cowl Panel, where it was a deep blue - possibly, Jet blue or Brigantine Blue.

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  • RonS
    RonS Senior Contributor
    edited December 2012
    These are the '49 Blue colors according to the MasterParts List:All one color : either Jet Blue( 4),Brigade Blue(18), Brazilian Blue( 1). If the roof is a differant color then only certain combinations are correct. Only two Duo-Tone combinations were available with a lower blue. If the lower color is Jersey Blue & upper is Gallant Gray code is JB. Or, if the lower is Jet Blue, then the upper should be Brazilian Blue code 12. Ron
  • 54SuperWasp
    54SuperWasp Expert Adviser
    Question to all: Paint code on passenger door hinges, only for 49-50 or all stepdowns? My 54 Super Wasp has no paint code on the tag from the passenger door. But I can tell that it is Silver Blue, just looking at it. Will check next week, just in case I could see a code...Michel
  • RonS
    RonS Senior Contributor
    edited December 2012
    It was ( is) very difficult to read the code on my 53. Since I expected to see code 147, it was simpler to look for confirmation than an complete unknown. Old paint,rust, pitting etc make these codes illegible. Suggestion: go on line to Auto Color Library. TCP Global has the PPG codes and can make up any factory color in Laquer, Enamel, Single urethane or BC/CC. Chris, you might try paint stripper instead of a wire brush. The brush will surely distort the light etching even more, and the "scratches" may cause what appears to be a number. If your car(1949) is a single color, I'll bet it is Jet Blue. Look at the TCP charts.
  • commodorecollector
    commodorecollector Senior Contributor
    I took everyone's advice today and took a wire brush to the top hinge. A faint small "P" appeared near the top in-between the top two bolts. So I guess she is a Peacock Blue which is wonderful news. I thought original when I first got her she was one of the three... Peacock Green, Jet or Brigantine blue.
  • RonS
    RonS Senior Contributor
    Chris, hate to throw a wrench into your deduction, but, Peacock green was a 1950 color. Piedmont green ( 48-49) is letter P . But, the firewall picture that you posted, does not appear close to the color chip that I have for any Green. It looks like Jet Blue, 4. View this on TCP Global website type in library and do it for 48 chips and 49 chips. You be the judge. I have the codes and chips.
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    RonS, I have, in the online library, the Ditzler paint codes for 1941-1954. I'd be interested in knowing how those compare with what you have.
    The list is filed in the 1940-1947 Reference Sheets file in the online library - URL below.

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • RonS
    RonS Senior Contributor
    Alex, I get them from TCP Global ( online). Those are the paint chips with PPG/ Ditzler codes to the right directly from the manufacturers achieves. For Hudson, I compare the Master Parts List and Hudsons offerings ( including the VIN) with the TCP colors For Hudson, they go back to 1929. That way I don't need a huge data base. TCP offers most cars since at least 1930 including foreign. Yours are probably the same, however Hudson as usual, changed paint options midyear. This is why some colors show both years, up to a VIN in the parts book. Not a real problem for HET folks, since Hudsons are not judged. But it sure is for my Ford and Cadillac. Color isn't a real concern for me, as much as originality. If the car was "christened" Seal Gray, that is the way I will repaint it. Try going to the TCP Global website, and compare and even extend yours back to the 29s. BTW, TCP says they can match the old lacquer & convert to BC/CC or SS urethane. They did for my friends Graham Hollywood.
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    edited December 2012
    Yes, Ron, I checked TCP and it appears that I have those paint charts. I think I put them in the on-line library, but I'd have to check that out. I do have paint spec charts for 1922-1927 Hudson & Essex, factory Ref. Sheet No. 36 - but these, along with the 1929 Hudson, Essex and Dover spec sheets list only the colors, no paint mix numbers.

    Y'all have a fine Christmas day, hear.

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • RonS
    RonS Senior Contributor
    Same to you. When did you lose your Maineiac accent?
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    About 2 weeks after I moved to Memphis - they couldn't understand me and I couldn't understand them. So I converted!!! =))

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
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