Edmunds Head On E-bay

[Deleted User] · January 2006

I know there was someone looking for a 308 performance head. There is one on e-bay now. Has a repairable crack on it. Seems like a decent deal to me... Niels

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hudson-Edmonds-hot-rod-rat-rod-308-cu-in-alum-head_W0QQitemZ4606898095QQcategoryZ107063QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Deleted User] · January 2006

I just "bought it now". Seemed like a pretty fair deal to me also. Given the price of some regular 308 aluminum heads that have been cut beyond a serviceable thickness - the Edmunds actually seemed cheap.

I'm not too crazy about that combustion chamber, I hope its really thick like the Edmunds manifolds.

Mark

TwinH · January 2006

I saw one like that at the Turkey Rod Run& swap meet in Daytona thanksgiving

weekend. Very similar crack except it ran all the way around the side and took off

across the deck surface. The guy had lots of intake manifolds and a few flathead

heads so I'm sure hoping its not the same one because its sure not described as such.

Man it would be a pretty piece all shined up but like you I wasn't impressed with the

combustion chamber. The "ledge" between the valve pocket and cylinder is a straight

drop where the Clifford has a nice "ramp" transistion. Don't know how much difference

it would make but I've been racing 3.5" X 3" briggs&stratton motor for 8 yrs,making

50 hp (on alcohol) @ 8800 rpm :eek: but the chamber looks very similar

to the Clifford.

Not knocking the Edmunds,I wish I had one and could play with the

chamber. My Clifford head was cracked also and am having great luck

with the repair.

50C8DAN · January 2006

I might recommend that you put (full, not helicoils)) steel threaded inserts in the spark plug holes. Makes for a much stronger and gall proof thread. I did that to my Hud 8 head and it works very well.

BTW Edmunds did make a 8 cylinder finned head and I know someone who has one but I have never seen one on engine.

[Deleted User] · February 2006

TwinH wrote:

I saw one like that at the Turkey Rod Run& swap meet in Daytona thanksgiving

weekend. Very similar crack except it ran all the way around the side and took off

across the deck surface. The guy had lots of intake manifolds and a few flathead

heads so I'm sure hoping its not the same one because its sure not described as such.

Man it would be a pretty piece all shined up but like you I wasn't impressed with the

combustion chamber. The "ledge" between the valve pocket and cylinder is a straight

drop where the Clifford has a nice "ramp" transistion. Don't know how much difference

it would make but I've been racing 3.5" X 3" briggs&stratton motor for 8 yrs,making

50 hp (on alcohol) @ 8800 rpm :eek: but the chamber looks very similar

to the Clifford.

Not knocking the Edmunds,I wish I had one and could play with the

chamber. My Clifford head was cracked also and am having great luck

with the repair.

Unfortunately for me, the head described as being at the Turkey Run, was the one I bought on e-bay. Cracked all the way around from the spark plug hole to the combustion chamber. I had hoped the description was truthful, that the crack was just "on the top" - turns out it wasn't.

I'm not going to whine about it. Its my special doorstop now. The pitiful part is that the head has not one fin damaged and other than the extensive crack - it is really nice disregarding the crack. I'd guess if you thumped it really good upon the floor - you'd have a two piece head.

So, heads up on the e-bay seller "oldbold97" descriptions are only given in enough detail to make the sale. If any other Hudson goodies pop up by this seller - make sure you ask alot of questions before smacking the buy-it-now button. A mistake I seldom make, but I really wanted an Edmunds head.

Live and Learn - at least I didn't give $500 for it.

Mark

bobbydamit · February 2006

These are the only negative feed backs that this guy has had in over 175 sales. I would imagine he would be a good guy and take it back. Even if you had to pay the shipping one way. It would be better than a door stop.

Remind him that you have found this add on the classic car and hudson club web site and it has been seen before at a swap meet and the condition was noted then and too cracked to repair, and that bad feed back would be far reaching and very damaging.

Quotes from Ebay feedback:

BEWARE this guys a CROOK.sent cracked carb wdn't take it back. BEWARE CROOK

Buyer centurian2 ( 133) Dec-05-02 09:58 1871540481

Reply by oldbold97: He BROKE 60 yr old carb FORCING apart. Sent back body destroyed HE BROKE,Its his Dec-08-02 17:04

Track record not good, see sellers feedback responses.......

Buyer spcaspary ( 26) Jun-19-03 07:18 2416013483

Reply by oldbold97: None paying bidder, registered with ebay.high bid no pay.gives me neg.feedback Jun-20-03 08:01

Courteous,fast,smooth transaction, but feel misled as to condition of item.

Buyer atall1 ( 65) Aug-27-02 19:00 1849345940

Reply by oldbold97: Delivered free,120 miles.Buyer inspected truck before paying. This is my thanks. Aug-30-02 19:37

Good Luck, Bobby.

TwinH · February 2006

Damn, that SUX! Man if I had just seen that link here a couple hours

earlier I could have given you the heads up.

That magic marker arrow

on the top of the head was making me pretty sure that was the one I'd

seen at Daytona. Still,I believe a repair is possible just couldn't convince

myself that it was worth the time,effort and$$. Thats why I passed at

Daytona,I didn't even ask for a price. This guy had 50 or more vintage

intakes like 3x2's 4x2's 6x2's 2x4's etc. for old Olds,Y block *ords etc. etc.

No way in hell that you could miss that crack with an arrow pointing it out

and plainly visible to the naked eye going all the way around and across the

deck. What a fraud.I believe there's a special place in hell for people like that.

Still I'd have the urge to polish her up, she'd make a

beautiful wall hanging. Cylinder heads as art

(how bad do you

have it?) :cool:Well at least all of us here could appreciate it...

[Deleted User] · February 2006

Thanks Twin-H, I had hoped that the arrow pointing to the crack was just to show it was cracked on the TOP (as the description said it was only the top, where indicated) - not all the way around. Alas, it is. I think it is fixable, but it will take alot of work to do it right.

They are nice looking, I'm not really all the crazy about the chamber since I've seen one. I suppose I'll be finding out how much material is in the casting to change that.

Mark

Unknown · February 2006

Husker nation was also looking for one here also

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