Recoverable or Unrecoverable This is the question

[Deleted User]
[Deleted User]
edited November -1 in HUDSON
Hey guys!

Some time ago I opened a thread that talked about my wishes for the 1949 Hudson commodore .. by the type of car and how important it was here in Spain .....

now that last weekend, I change my store for my car's ... I decided to clean all the crap inside ... and do some photos for my colleagues asking for opinions and also in hier unquestionably experts on this board!

I am very disappointed by the state of the plate ... some collagues warned me and I acted in a very deluded ... impossible to rely on it.

let my pictures here for we to tell me if it is recoverable ... (again) to try to have a little more than illusion.

And I wanted to ask if we think I could find a Hudson Commodore (very important 1949) in USA at a good price They were exposed to either chassis, engine, transmission, and be in proper working order ... for import into Spain, and switch roles. The Commodore '49 could cost me in USA ?? anyone have any idea ¿?

Thank you very much in advance friends!
Bye!

PD: I will apologize for my English translation.




















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  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    It's pretty clear to me that you would be much better served if you got a good car from the US. That Commodore you have is very badly rusted, and more important, it does not have an original Hudson engine or transmission. I think you could find a good car here and have it shipped to Espana for less than it would cost to fix that rusty one.
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    What Park W said.


    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    edited August 2011
    Servat,

    I think you are saying that your Hudson is too badly rusted to restore (¿el coche está demasiado oxidado restaurar?).

    You desire to know if we agree? (¿usted deseo a sabe si convenimos con usted?)

    Tristemente, la respuesta es, sí. Usted podría restaurar el coche, pero requeriría demasiado dinero.

    Si usted compra un coche en buenas condiciones, pueden costarle más dinero que comprar un coche oxidado. Pero usted puede restaurar el coche y conducirlo, al mismo tiempo. Reconstruyendo el metal aherrumbrado, es muy costoso. Así pues, usted ahorrará el dinero si usted compra un coche con un buen cuerpo.

    Le costará $1500 - $3.000 para enviar un coche de América. ¡Usted puede encontrar un negocio aquí en los E.E.U.U.! Recientemente, un Hudson 1949 en condiciones originales muy buenas fue vendido para $6,500US en el estado de Maryland. (véase las fotografías) Así pues, usted podría comprar el coche y tenerlo enviado, para $8,000US - $9500US.






    (Car recently for sale for "$6,500 or best offer" in Maryland

    O, usted puede tener suerte. ¡Posiblemente usted encontrará otro Hudson más cercano a usted, y usted ahorrará los costos del envío!
  • Marconi
    Marconi Senior Contributor
    HUH, Wha'yd he say?????????????????
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Let me try my hand at translating:

    Sadly, the answer is yes. You will be able to restore the car, but it will require too much money.

    If you buy a car in good condition, it will cost you more than buying a rusted car. But you can restore it and drive it at the same time. Repairing the damaged metal is very costly. Thus, you will save money if you buy a car with a good body.

    It costs $1500-$3000 to send a car from America. Recently, a 1949 Hudson in very good original condition sold for $6500 in Maryland(see photos). Thus, you could buy the car and ship it for $8000-$9500.

    Or, you might get lucky. Possible you might find a Hudson closer to you and avoid the shipping charges.

    Soooo, basically the same thing everybody else said! :)

    jeremiah
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Sorry but that one is HISTORY...Reminds me of the 57 Plymouth they had intombed in Tulsa...Just cant do much with that much RUST
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Hello, good afternoon guys!

    This past weekend I have been removing more and more pieces or spoiled rotten ....

    I noticed that right in the front doors .... the body has not borne the burden and has fallen ... so now the front doors do not close properly ... they will continue removing .... and restoring some pieces to keep for prosperity.

    And I am considering buying a 1949 Hudson Commodore of the 'original in perfect condition in USA. I will have a budget of $ 13,000 or $ 15.000 but I am afraid I have to buy a commodore chassis rusted ... so do not know if I can buy with this money a good piece preserved in time or a car restored.

    I have a dilemma and a little scary now that I've seen a broken Body.

    I want to thank everyone for your advice and opinions valises.
    Jon B. Thanks for informing the market here and illustrate that it is possible to buy a commodore in good condition and cheaper to restore mine!

    I would like to add that my commodore has the veneer VIN Number: 49214171 but I do not see the VIN information so if someone could tell me where to look ....

    Thank you all!
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    Servat-

    I hope this is what you are asking, but the first three #'s of the VIN is 492. That denotes a Commodore 6.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Hello all Guys!!!
    I'm now in hier! I have som images.... and I put in hier and I wonder if there is any precedent for any Commodore with this state....
    Hard Day's comming... Have a Happy new year guys!!!!!
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  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    I know of a couple that were worse than that - and were brought back. One was a 1941 Commodore 8 convertible - it was so bad it was hard to tell what it was.
    The other is Russell Chiltons 1952 Hornet convertible that was about the same as the '41 covert - that also is pretty close to being on the road. Russell has a blog, but I don't have the URL for it - he may be on here later and post that info.

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    492 may denote it being a '49 Comm. 6 but the engine isn't a Hudson engine, and with all that rust!?!!?!?!
  • Uncle Josh
    Uncle Josh Senior Contributor
    Well, my rule of thumb is..'Does it cast a shadow'. I think your shadow is full of holes. Looks like the rust may be the only thing holding much of it together.

    by the time you get that one drivable you'll be an old man.

    I agree with the consensus. Buy a good one from US.
  • Hudsonrules
    Hudsonrules Senior Contributor
    I have a '49 Super "6" sedan that I will sell reasonbly. It needs restoring and can be made into a commodore with a little work and trim. But I am on the west coast of the U.S. and would shil the car out of Long beach probably. Comment me if interested, I will send pictures. Thanks, Arnie in Nevada.
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    edited December 2012
    Oh boy - tired of the color "rust" yet?

    I thought my 49 was borderline but went ahead with repairs anyway..your's is much worse, but not the worst I've seen - like the Jet Convertible!

    I do think if you're set on a Hudson you would be better off trying to find another thats solid and/or semi-restored.

    It's one thing your Hudson has got some historical or sentimental value, but otherwise I'd say you're throwing good money after a car that is always going to have rust problems as long as you own it.

    There are honorable people on this forum that can help locate a good car, I just have no idea what shipping costs would be.



  • commodorecollector
    commodorecollector Senior Contributor
    edited December 2012
    Sad to see a Hudson end up in that condition and like everyone has said, it would be a lot better off to find one in the US and ship it instead of spending too much time and money on that rusty relic. To help offset the costs of importing a Hudson from the US, you could part out what is left of that 49' Comm 6.
    I also looked up the rough shipping cost for shipping a car to Spain... it comes in at Approx $2850 in a 20 foot Private Container via Valencia from Long Beach California.
  • Hudsonrules
    Hudsonrules Senior Contributor
    Hi Jordi, Please send me an address in Spain and I will send pictures of my '49 Super "6" 4door sedan. I can not get any pictures on my computor now as there is something wrong with it. The Hudson does run and drive, has a working overdrive, minor rust in right front rocker, otherwise the body is in good shape. Looks okay but does need work, engine overhaul, interior minor body work and a door glass. I will let it go for $2850. It has a rebuilt fuel tank and recored radiator. Please get back with me. Thanks, Arnie in Nevada.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    edited January 2013
    Hello All peoples!

    thank you very much for all your support and for the work and time they have devoted to finding a solution!

    I went back to spend time in the car and remove the entire back, more of the same ... not seem to see anything good in it! and when you work on cars so grab affection,

    I have done a few more photos of the state and the process .... I put them below!

    My e-mail is servat0633/@gmail/com (change bar per point) if you need my physical address is:


    if you can send photos or Any reference, information ... All are welcome! and I am grateful.

    oldhudsons: this engine is not the original! in 1965 changed the engine for a 17HP Diesel 4 Cylinder Barreiros typical in Spain .... (Shoddy) cut some inner frame to put a manual gearbox.

    Rambos: now understand why I need your photos for a little guide jejejjejej ... Great job you've done! I know!

    also thank you very much for the information of the transport company!
    I will look here when it costs des California, the port of Barcelona or Valencia harbor that I have that are the closest to me. both between 160 and 400 km from home ...

    I'm learning a lesson that I'm taking apart these days and I can only say one thing: Please! take care of their cars! do not let the Rust eat a cherished part of their lives! Someday it will be too late ....

    I have no more to wish everyone a happy new year! and will continue to try in the next 2013!
    Thank you all guys

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Sorry if the site is very much in keeping with the car ... hahahaha formerly an ancient broiler and now serves very well as stock! jejjejej

    in the photos of the driver side front beam can be seen as a difference is down to the other side. so it gives me the impression that the chassis is very wrong!

    Bye Boys!
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    So - are you going to try and fix the Hudson you have?

  • commodorecollector
    commodorecollector Senior Contributor
    edited December 2012
    Servat,
    This 50' Hudson Commodore has just been recently put up on Ebay with NO Reserve. It is not mine but thought you might be interesting in acquiring it.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1950-Hudson-Commodore-/140901580949?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item20ce638095#ht_500wt_1182
    Chris
  • Hudsonrules
    Hudsonrules Senior Contributor
    That is a 1950 Pacemaker, pretty sad.
  • Terraplane33
    Terraplane33 Expert Adviser
    Unfortunately, this car seems to much damaged to be restored. Even is you have lots of time and you are able to do the job, I believe it still does not worth it...
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