8 cylinder coil location

[Deleted User]
[Deleted User]
edited January 2013 in HUDSON
Dave here is a 1948 Hudson 254 with what I asume is on original coil mounting. I pulled this engine out of an original umolested car,
Roger

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  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    edited January 2013
    Thank You for braveing the cold to take the pictures. Now i have more questions.. LOL.. My 49 is different..My wire loom has a place for 9 wires and mounts higher on the engine.. hmmmm...
  • Uncle Josh
    Uncle Josh Senior Contributor
    That's the right location for the coil, only mine is mounted vertically. Guess the juice goes either way.
  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    Another Hudson 8 owner sent me a picture of his. I have the upper wire loom (that has 9 wire places ?) but not the lower one nor the coil mounting that appears to be a heat shield as well.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Ken U-Tx , I would assume that motor is rebuildable but have never opened it up. It ran good and burnt no oil at all. But had a rattle in it simmilar to a loose rod under no load. Or when you would rap the rpm's up and down quick you could hear it.
    But the noise was not in the bottom it was in the top ,between 4-5 cylinder. My thoughts were a piston hitting the head due to worn bearings in rod or wrist pin. Or maybe the thrust washer on the cam has broken.
    Thats all I can tell you about that one ,plus have a few missing parts now Ive borrowed .I have others sitting around too. Most I dont know much about condition.
    Roger
  • Uncle Josh
    Uncle Josh Senior Contributor
    Well, the 40 coil is mounted on the firewall, in the 1st pic but
    the stepdown motor in the 2nd pic has a bracket shown to the left of the wires with 2 verticle holes for the coil. Interestingly, the stepdown used a similar loom bracket like the 40, lower on the motor.
    The 3rd pic is the 40 CC motor I did for William Gates. The wires with attached ends will not go thru these metal looms, so I slit the ends open, pried them apart, to insert the wires, then made a couple of clips from copper pipe to hold the ends together. I guess they could be tack welded.
    In the earlier engines, there was a metal ring to group the wires near the intake manifold, which I replaced with a larger rubber ring I had as ya can't get the wire ends thru the metal ring either. Bill will probably use a tie wrap at this location.

  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    Ken, That is what i have been doing on all my cars. Allows me to make a nice neat installation by having the wires at the exact length. Some one appears to have done that with this car unless it was one of those "universal" kits. I used some silicone on the boots to keep the moisture out and had a dickens of a tme keeping the boots on! The air that was trapped kept pushing them back off! LOL.
    Here is a picture of the wire loom on my car. Has a center clip for the coil wire. It mounts on the tab that is located on the back top of the intake. A threaded hole. Holds the wires above the exhaust manifold. looks like I am missing the lower one.. Still can't figure why the Coil wire clip. Coil shouldn't be anywhere near there. This bracket doesn't appear to have been altered either. Oh well...Guess I'll make something and ignore the extra clip.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Possibly its from a car with the coil mounted above like pre Stepdowns. Motor may not be but bracket may have been switched out?
    Roger
  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    Sounds reasonable to me.
  • EssexAdv
    EssexAdv Expert Adviser, Member
    The photo shows the coil in the same place as it is on my 52
  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    From the pictures, I am sure I can make a coil mount that will look and function correctly. I still need the wire loom that is just above the distributor cap. Or another top mounted loom I can modify.
    Thanksfor all the help
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