Hudson body photos

lostmind
lostmind Expert Adviser
edited March 2013 in HUDSON
How would you like to start a restoration with one of these?

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  • Been there done that. lol. Model 28A Federal hauling a bunch of soon to be stepdowns. Great shot. Where did you find these??
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    These pictures were on the forum years ago. They were Life pictures that finally got released to the public. At the time of their release, there was a great debate about the logistics of Hudson convertible production, mainly due to my prodding and pestering, at the time.

    The first pic, that shows a convertible body on the bottom and rear of the trailer, was the picture that proved the rumor that convertibles were built off of the main line and in their own room, by showing the completeness of the car. These bodies are being moved from the body plant on Gratiot and trucked to the main factory to be finished.

    I tried blowing it up to determine what year these bodies were, but was unsuccessful. I believe it is pre-'52, though by the rear bumper cut-out.
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    Another very interesting item of mention (to me, anyway), is that the bodies do not appear to be "in white", but rather, pre-painted. That would seem to me to make staging the bodies on the line a great lesson in organization!
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    Nice try, but I think the truck analogy is inconclusive, Ken. '48 & '49 Dodge essentially the same from the front. Also, it's very dangerous trying to date photos by using trucks as examples, as oftentimes earlier, unsold trucks could be titled as later year's examples.

    Great spot on the back, window, though! I love it, we're narrowing it down.
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    Answer to your original question, Roy, is YOU BET! Would've been loads cheaper than what I did.
  • lostmind
    lostmind Expert Adviser
    Russell , I thought of you when I spotted that Convertible. I was browsing
    and came across them. There are many great photos released by Life.
    There were also photos of Chrysler products being hauled the same way.
    I thought they were coming from a body plant somewhere.
    Don't know the details , just thought it was worth sharing.
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    How would you like to look in your rear view and see that truck bumper coming at you. :D followed by :((

    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
    Memphis, TN
  • 50 or 51 do to the size of the side window behind rear door. Its hard to tell but I would choose 51 because 50s had a split back window.
  • Hudsy Wudsy
    Hudsy Wudsy Senior Contributor
    It seems to me that the convertible is the only one with glass in it. Am I correct on that ? If, in fact the others don't have glass in them yet, then they could all still be '50s as easily as '51s because the rear window divide wouldn't be installed yet.
  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    The firewall has a large hole on the drivers side for the wire loom ,I am presently replaceing a drivers side cowl section on a 49 and the donar car is a 51. The 51 has the large hole where the 49 had a much smaller one. Don't know what the fifty was like. The rear bumper cut out appears to be lower than 48-51,which would make it 52.
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    Looks like my '51 ragtop on that truck . . . don't care for the tan top with a light-colored paint, though. But I'd take it in a heartbeat!
  • Hudsy Wudsy
    Hudsy Wudsy Senior Contributor
    It's my recollection that converts were only available with tan tops initially, and I believe for quite a while after that. I took a quick look in a Feb 1-'53 ( '48 - '53) parts book and in Group HH2 there is a note in there about stating the color of the top when ordering the rear window curtain. This was to make sure that the color of the fabric surrounding the rear window your were about to order would match the rest of the top. That means for sure that by that point different colored tops were available. None of that means much, though, because the convertible body we see in the picture is light colored and could well have been ordered with a tan top even if dark ones were available.
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    James-

    '48 & '49-- tops came in black or gray (with black boot)
    '50 thru '54-- tops came in black, maroon or tan (after '50, boots matched interior)

    But you are right, it means very little, as you could probably order a car with whatever color top you wanted.
  • nick s
    nick s Senior Contributor
    russell, a gray topped car came with a gray boot in 48.
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    Hmmm. I feel like Johnny Carson . . . I did not know that!
  • I can shed some light on the 1950 models .Attatch you see a page from a 1950 dealers price book I have. This page involves the convetable top options,
    Roger
  • [Deleted User]
    edited March 2013
    Double post
  • [Deleted User]
    edited March 2013
    I say they are 1951 bodies from the rear tail light cut outs and the fact there is a 1951 sedan in the parking lot.

    http://www.hudsonmotorcar.org/coppermine/displayimagepopup/pid=676/fullsize=1.html
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    Sean-
    Except that that is not the same load of cars . . .
  • Diffintly 51s the 52-53 had a longated window on the side behind the back door unlike the 48-51s. Even tho these dont have glass in them the 50s, except Pacemakers, had a split back window and there was a strip of the body that ran through the center of the back window that the split window set in and the chrome pieces screwed into. . Just my oppinion.
  • Yes there is a series of 5 Life pictures taken the same day of cars moving from the body plant to the factory. All the pictures show 1951's being transported. I used to have the labels for the pics that said when in 51 the pics were taken. Not close to my stuff to look right now.
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    edited March 2013
    " ..., it means very little, as you could probably order a car with whatever color top you wanted."

    RL, I think you're right there. I bought my first '51 Hornet convertible from its second owner in early '56. Based on wear, the top looked like it was the original, and it was white.
  • Very true Park , its fairly well known that no matter what the book said . If a customer wanted a particular item that was not "Normaly Offered" and would pay for it he got it,
    Roger
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    I've often said, the independents had to go the extra distance to sell cars. If that meant putting a purple top on a car, because a customer said, "I'll buy it if I can get a purple top . . .", then Hudson would everything within reason to sell a car.

    And as soon as someone comments, "There was never a purple top on a Hudson convertible", I guarantee it, one will show up out of the woodwork.
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