WTB or borrow J-2794 oil pump alignment gauge

Courtesy Man
Courtesy Man Expert Adviser
edited November -1 in HUDSON
I would like to reproduce this Hudson tool for aligning the distributor and oil pump gear in the 1948-56 6 cyl engines. I would make them available for sale.
I need to either borrow an original ( would pay shipping and security deposit as
well as return the original with a free repo unit ).
Or if someone wants to sell me one. This is a metal rod with a tab that engages the oil pump gear and it has an alignment handle. Please help make this available to us all. Thank you, Gert Kristiansen - Deseret Chapter - retired machinist.
SLC, Utah HETgtkristi@copper.net (remove the HET prefix )

Comments

  • Kdancy
    Kdancy Senior Contributor
    put me on your buyer list.
  • I had one reproduced from the original. You are welcome to borrow it. Send me a private message with your address.

    regards

    J Lombard
  • Courtesy Man
    Courtesy Man Expert Adviser
    J Lombard has kindly offered to lend me his copy of an original. I will keep you informed of my progress. The original was probably made out of mild steel - does anyone know ? I am considering making them in stainless steel - hoping that will be agreeable . Gert Kristiansen
  • RonS
    RonS Senior Contributor
    I would be interested also, But why stainless?
  • Courtesy Man
    Courtesy Man Expert Adviser
    Perhaps I was thinking of it as a holy relic ! And it is unlikely to wear out regardless of material. I may consider aluminum as it does not rust, which was my initial thought in using stainless. I welcome your feedback. Gert Kristiansen
  • super651
    super651 Senior Contributor
    Gert,put me on the list also. Rudy B.
  • MikeWA
    MikeWA Senior Contributor
    Have always been intrigued by the "special tools", and happy to see someone reproducing them. I also vote for aluminum, as it isn't a tool that will be put under any stress- no use making it any more elaborate than it needs to be.

    Regardless, I'm sure the final product will be of excellent quality- your reputation precedes you! :)
  • A few years ago I replaced my oil pump gear and then reinstalled the pump per Ken U-Tex's suggestion. However, it would have been nice to have had the special oil pump J-2794 alignment tool as it took me a number of trys to get the pump lined up just right.
  • I made the tool from an old distributer I had. Pulled the shaft out of it made a pointer for it and used it many times. Worked nice. You could make the same tool pretty easy out a dowel. Not hard to make. But if someone else makes and they are cheap i.e less than 10 bucks for this seldom used tool you are gold.
  • dave11
    dave11 Expert Adviser
    I didn't aware there are any provisions for adjusting the distributor to oil pump alignment?
    How does it work
  • hoggyrubber
    hoggyrubber Expert Adviser
    i think they are just talking about getting them aligned for instillation. i changed the gear on the oil pump last summer and also had the dist out several times. i didn't have too much trouble getting it lined up by sight. however the engine was out on a stand and it was real easy to get to. i'm sure if you were trying to do it with your head between the tire and fender you might be ready to buy the tool no matter what it's made of.:evil:
  • Courtesy Man
    Courtesy Man Expert Adviser
    As I understand the procedure, when the oil pump is being replaced the engine is turned to fire at No 1 cyl. Then the alignment tool is used to place the O/P gear in position so that the timing is retained and the distrib goes back in same firing position as when removed. No shifting of plug wires needed, and vac chamber remains in location. Procedure is in Hudson shop Manual section 3-8 .
    I have made a copy of the original tool and am actually thinking of making a few
    "improvemants" to a tool I will offer for sale soon. I want to practice with both tools on a Hornet block I have on a stand. The material will be aluminum. Thanks for your support - Gert Kristiansen
  • 56starfire
    56starfire Expert Adviser
    Gert,
    I would be interested in one of these tools also.
    Thanks
    Mike
  • Uncle Josh
    Uncle Josh Senior Contributor
    I like Ken's method. Even then I screwed up and got the Hornet 180 out. #1 was at 7 o'clock. So I just rewired it at the distrubutor. Runs great! The engine doesn't care where this stuff is as long as it gets the spark at the correct time, and in the right sequence.
  • ArtS
    ArtS Expert Adviser
    Hi Gert:

    Aluminum version of J-2794 sounds great. Please put me on your buyer list. Thanks and best wishes.

    ArtS
  • billrabe
    billrabe Expert Adviser
    Did you ever reproduce this tool? If so, I would love to buy a copy.
  • Courtesy Man
    Courtesy Man Expert Adviser
    Yes I made a small batch and still have a few left. They are $35 plus $13.00 Priority mail shipping. Thank you for your interest. Gert Kristiansen, 1731 S 500 E, Salt Lake City, UT 84105 Your personal check is fine.
  • billrabe
    billrabe Expert Adviser
    Thanks Gert, I will get a check off your way!
  • Courtesy Man
    Courtesy Man Expert Adviser
    Thank you Bill, I also do PayPal if you like. HETgtkristi@copper.net -drop the HET. Gert
  • EssexAdv
    EssexAdv Expert Adviser, Member
    Hi Gert. Do you have another
    Let me know
    Lew Mendenhall
  • Courtesy Man
    Courtesy Man Expert Adviser
    Yes, Lew I do and if I get "lots of orders" I will machine some more. I have to buy the aluminum in a 10 foot "stick" so I make up 10 at a time (if I don't make a mistake). Gert
  • [Deleted User]
    edited March 2013
    I purchased this Hudson distributor/oil pump alignment tool last year from Gert and it certainly came in handy when I replaced the oil pump gear on my Super Wasp with a new one.
  • Courtesy Man
    Courtesy Man Expert Adviser
    Yes I also put it on Ebay - but you can buy it from me at $35 plus shipping and save a little as
    the Ebay Buy it now I set at $40. Oh I also listed a cam bearing set for the 212. Thanks Gert
  • RL Chilton
    RL Chilton Administrator, Member
    Gert-

    I didn't even know you had finished this project, but had been waiting. I would still like to have one as well.

    Russell
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