need a used Clifford 4 barrel intake anyone ?
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and all you hear are crickets0
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"Hello Darkness, My Old Friend" !!! Good luck. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz0
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Why don't all you guys that want one of these get together and contact Clifford with a bulk order and see if you can get them to move. If you have 10 or so to order they might very well listen. Onsy twosy and people cancelling orders is not very condusive to getting anyone to make these things. I would put a post here and also in WTN and see what you can work up. It is worth a shot. It is a pretty good manifold from what I can tell, even if Clifford is less than a stellar vendor.0
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If your going to go to that much trouble, we should do a twin carb. That is what Hudsons came with from the factory and I would question the performance of a 4bbl on an inline 6. The distribution can't be too good to the end cylinders, at least if you are looking for a performance increase.0
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The problem is that the Clifford manifold is tooled the 2x2 is not. That is a totally new manifold unless you can find the old Edmunds tooling or design one from scratch.0
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I figured that much, it was just a suggestion since all I have seen here since joining the board on Clifford is diappointment. Might as well start from scratch, no matter what part they list for the Hudson, they don't ever have it. Has anyone ever run the 4bbl? Seems strange that Clifford was the only one to have these.0
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For what its worth,I built a copy of the 7x,and put a Chevy 700r4 automatic behind it.The 700 uses a throttle valve cable.Not expecting any trouble in obtaining a 4 bbl intake I bought an Edelbrock 600 cfm 4 bbl carb,there is a company that makes a nicely engineered bracket for the throttle cable that bolts to the arm on that carb.It has to be correct thru the full range or you can burn up the tranny.So it would have been a clean look and done quickly.Never did I think it would turn out to be such a hassle,heck if ya have been around Hudsons for awhile you have seen 'em,know they are out there,know Clifford is/was still in business,figure you can just make a call when ya need one,,what a shame,it would seem he could sell alot of 'em,So,I'm still looking for0
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For what its worth,I built a copy of the 7x,and put a Chevy 700r4 automatic behind it.The 700 uses a throttle valve cable.Not expecting any trouble in obtaining a 4 bbl intake I bought an Edelbrock 600 cfm 4 bbl carb,there is a company that makes a nicely engineered bracket for the throttle cable that bolts to the arm on that carb.It has to be correct thru the full range or you can burn up the tranny.So it would have been a clean look and done quickly.Never did I think it would turn out to be such a hassle,heck if ya have been around Hudsons for awhile you have seen 'em,know they are out there,know Clifford is/was still in business,figure you can just make a call when ya need one,,what a shame,it would seem he could sell alot of 'em,So,I'm still looking for0
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for what its worth fellas i too am waiting for my intake and headers from clifford.i spoke to larry today at clifford and he said it is hard to cast 1 or 2 or even 10 intakes when jeep and the slant 6 are doin so well(150 at a time)an then with chevy and ford parts hudson is put on the back burner.i think instead of you guys bellyaching and
canceling orders when you dont get it right away should get everyone who wants one to get together and place one big order that will rock the clifford company off its foundation and let them know there is a market for these parts and we need them just like jeep and the others.and i case your'e wondering if a 4 barrell will work in a flathead 6 i have one on my chevy 292 6 cylinder and it works very well.i'm keeping my order in until i get it.good luck to you all.0 -
I've been running a Clifford 4 bbl intake on a '56 motor in my '40 2dr sedan. It has a 700r behind it. It works VERY well. I'm on the list at Cliffords for two manifolds. When I get another, I will be doing a throttle body injection with it
Dany Spring0 -
the problem is that compared to the chevy, ford, and jeep stuff, there is no market for hudson performance parts.
Sad, because I wouldn't mind having a few of these items maybe someday.
Better would be the 2x edmunds, but still you need headder....0 -
georgieboy wrote:for what its worth fellas i too am waiting for my intake and headers from clifford.i spoke to larry today at clifford and he said it is hard to cast 1 or 2 or even 10 intakes when jeep and the slant 6 are doin so well(150 at a time)an then with chevy and ford parts hudson is put on the back burner.i think instead of you guys bellyaching and
canceling orders when you dont get it right away should get everyone who wants one to get together and place one big order that will rock the clifford company off its foundation and let them know there is a market for these parts and we need them just like jeep and the others.and i case your'e wondering if a 4 barrell will work in a flathead 6 i have one on my chevy 292 6 cylinder and it works very well.i'm keeping my order in until i get it.good luck to you all.
One big order is a great idea - however, that said if you are going to advertize parts then you should be ready to supply them. If you can't supply on a 1 or 2 bases, then don't take a customers money with the idea you're going to hold the checks until you get 50 orders to make a run. Don't even advertize you have the parts.
Hudsonly,
Alex B0 -
4bbl on straight 6 works well. I've used the Clifford manifold in the past and had plenty of additional HP. Also, I've had a 4bbl on a 300 Ford six for many years with great success.0
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hudsontech wrote:One big order is a great idea - however, that said if you are going to advertize parts then you should be ready to supply them. If you can't supply on a 1 or 2 bases, then don't take a customers money with the idea you're going to hold the checks until you get 50 orders to make a run. Don't even advertize you have the parts.
Hudsonly,
Alex B
thats exactly what i'm saying if we rock thier world and let them know there is a market or these parts maybe then you'll be able to get 1 or 2 .i myself am down for four.check this out, everytime i look at this forum hudson guys by far have more people than all the other forums put together,you guys are the most dedicated enthusiasts i've ever seen,and to just roll over and say they wont make us our parts i quit is a bunch of crap.call clifford all you and tell them we want our parts,do it for jack,do it for history,do it for your flathead.0 -
Go ahead Gorgieboy "ROCK THEIR WORLD" order an intake,be told that it will be a couple of weeks.Wait,Wait,Wait,get weekly-biweekly updates ...it won't be long now....then its two months..then its three months....then its 4 months....be patient as a monk Georgieboy...someday you'll get it.My friend owns an aluminum foundry.He said its B.S. what the Clifford company is doing.Why hasn't the current owner gone to the foundry and insisted some Hudson intakes be cast?,they obviously have deposits on them and if the Jeep business is SO GOOD they are making money,cast some.Why do we have to order alot at a time?,but keep waiting someday maybe in a year you'll get yours,why have or profess an allegiance to such a company?,one in which the owners of the car that made the founder of that compant famous are bassically pissed on ?while they hold your deposit ?,weird pal.goodluck georgie boy....may0
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the crickets that you mention in your response to my post become deafening in your ears while you patiently wait and grow older while not being able to drive your car....goodluck cricket0
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whatever super 6,in the meantime you can keep begging for someone to 'please sell me a clifford intake" you know i got other projects too so i'm not sweating it like you.i got time and as a matter of fact i ordered extra manifolds so next time you're begging for somebody to please sell you one maybe you can ask this cricket.you are the exact kind of person i was talking about that sits there and bellyaches and wants everything handed to them on a silver platter but dont have the balls to get up off your ass and do somthing about it.i dont have any allegiance to clifford or you,you dont even know me so back off,you beg for your stuff and i'll get mine when i get mine.goodluck beggar0
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Maybe the HET club could front the ordering. Say 10 people order from HET then HET club calls them up and says we need ten. We would need to make it a 10 mimimum order to catch their attention.
That being said everyone has valid points. There are a lot companies doing ok with small lot manufacturing. With todays manufacturing techniques we should be able to get something made to mold these. And I think its correct to say that them saying they cannot go for 2 Hudson manifolds is crap. When you setup the Jeep pours and are doing say 50 of those nothing stops you from bolting up the Hudson form and pouring them at the same time. I don't think it has anything to do with Hudson low orders I think its 100% they couldn't give a crap about us anymore. Only way we will get them to listen is to do what georgieboy says and organize ourselves to get them more orders. Maybe through HET as I suggested or we as a group find a company that will do the work for us.0 -
georgieboy wrote:whatever super 6,in the meantime you can keep begging for someone to 'please sell me a clifford intake" you know i got other projects too so i'm not sweating it like you.i got time and as a matter of fact i ordered extra manifolds so next time you're begging for somebody to please sell you one maybe you can ask this cricket.you are the exact kind of person i was talking about that sits there and bellyaches and wants everything handed to them on a silver platter but dont have the balls to get up off your ass and do somthing about it.i dont have any allegiance to clifford or you,you dont even know me so back off,you beg for your stuff and i'll get mine when i get mine.goodluck beggar
Wow bring it on Georgie boy Calling me names like that on the internet makes me mad,I'm not a begger but a realist unlike you.Perhaps we can meet somewhere and I can smack you in the head with the stock two barrel intake I do have what do you say about that you pos ?I got the ball s for that you name calling pos0 -
we have now sunk to name calling on this matter.I did not like what Georgie boy posted about my post and responded in kind.Just a reminder calling me or any others here names may result in backing it up.I responded in a way that invites him to back it up.Perhaps we could go a few rounds Georgie boy,Dave super 60
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i'm ready super 6 ,all this over an intake i love it.let me know0
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you know you're right rick i'm not into this mud-slinging either i was trying to be helpful but it evolved into this,sorry to all you readers i realize this is stupid,super 6 if we ever meet then we will 'talk' but until then this is silly and i'm checking out of this thread to.0
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georgieboy wrote:you know you're right rick i'm not into this mud-slinging either i was trying to be helpful but it evolved into this,sorry to all you readers i realize this is stupid,super 6 if we ever meet then we will 'talk' but until then this is silly and i'm checking out of this thread to.
Whats with this Georgie boy ? You say your sorry to all you readers but you don't say your sorry to me ?,I never begged for anything,the words you used about me will not be forgotten by me and I hope we will meet at a hudson meet someday,a day you will not forget I assure you of that,reread your posts Georgie boy think about what you wrote..and then you say youe sorry to all you readers ?,fu0 -
has anyone suggested that cliffords might sell the patterns ? ? ? there must be a lot of foundry places in business yet . possibly even in asia. have you not seen the great "cardboard engineering" that has come from overseas ? it could happen.0
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you know we could send a clifford 4bbl intake overseas and have it coppied
but remove their name. Cast in the Hudson name and the factory 2bbl intake
part number. Kinda of like what Jack Clifford did on his version of the aluminum cylinder head...
I have seen this done on several different item recently just to get them to
pass some obscure rule in many forms of racing.
I would copy the 4bbl adaptor, Holley 2bbl abaptor and make a stock 2bbl
adaptor to make it universal for everybody.
There are many foundries that would not object to making copies like this in
small quanties and there are several of them here in the midwest. A lot of 25
or 50 would not be a problem to most of these guys.
Sand casting still exist at very low prices with very high qualtity.
PaceRacer500
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