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Not much here to make a decision upon...
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Welcome aboard!
Please post a bit more of yourself - and pictures of your 'Hudson' are welcome, regardless of current condition. I am going to modify the 'Subject Line', as that is where the forum puts the 'link' to open your thread - and there isn't much there right now to 'click on'... LOL!
Good to have you. I'm sure you'll find a wealth of information here.
You may also want to visit the Hudson Essex Terraplane Club website, and consider joining that Club - Members come for the cars, and stick around because of the great folks there!
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Thanks! I messed up my original post, I didn't think I saved it, but it saved
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What I had put was this: "Hi! I am glad to have found this forum because on December 14, 2014, my father passed away and left me with a 1932 Essex Terraplane. I am looking to sell it, along with a '48 Anglia he also left me, as I am permanently moving South. I do not know much about the worth of such a vehicle, so I am hoping that I can find some info here and maybe possibly someone who is interested in purchasing it. I would so love for someone who knows what they are getting to purchase this vehicle. A little bit about it: It is a 1932 Essex Terraplane 2 door rumbleseat coupe. It has 77K original miles on it. It has been garaged since 1958 and possibly for years even before that. My dad bought it when he was 16 years old, at that time from an older lady who had it stored in her barn. He put it in the garage and never really touched it since. He has taken it out and putted up and down the road once or twice in my 36 years, but not much more than that. Every thing on it is original to the vehicle, even the tires. It, of course would need a restoration, but it is in awesome condition". Hopefully someone on here can give me some insight on what kind of money I have in my hands. It is all my dad had to leave to me. I am sure it isn't going to blow my hair back, but I am hoping it is worth what he always thought it was. I will post pics of it later and see what everyone here thinks! Thanks!
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Telesha, thanks for telling us about this. The car might not have the same value as one which had undergone a $50,000 restoration (and looked showroom new); but in recent years the "barn find" or "all-original" automobile has become highly prized by collectors because it is a rare "time capsule", exactly the same car that emerged new from the factory. You can't say that about a restored car, because everything about it has been modified, even though it "looks" brand new. It would be a shame to either restore, or street-rod, this car. It ought to be preserved in its native state if at all possible.
A true original, preserved automobile like this -- especially one as obscure and rare as a 1932 Terraplane (that was the first year of Terraplane production) -- is something that does not appear on the market often enough to establish a price pattern. Therefore, it will be difficult to arrive at a value. But I'm sure that you'll have a number of people replying to your question with their own ideas, and in this way you can at least arrive at a range of prices. Always ask more than you think it's worth, and be willing to lower the price only after you've had several offers. And try not to be in a hurry!
One thing you can do, at no cost, is to advertise this car in the bi-monthly magazine of the Hudson-Essex-Terraplane Club, The White Triangle News. Even if you are not a member you can do this for free, so long as you enlist the help of a current member of the Club. I would be willing to "sponsor" your ad as a "lead" from me. But you will have to act fairly quickly. The deadline for the next issue is Feb. 1 (publishing date mid-March) and it will be two months after that before the following issue comes out. Ads MUST contain an asking price so we'll all put on our thinking caps and try to come up with some reasonable asking price for you. My e-mail address is XXXdetailed@verizon.net, drop the XXX before sending.
-Jon B.
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Jon!! That would be AWESOME!! My husband works second shift so as soon as he gets up, I will go out and get some pics of the Essex and post them here and then you guys can start giving me some ideas. Like you said on the asking price, we can always go high at least to get the ad posted for March and then I can work with anyone who is seriously interested as I learn more about what I actually have. This is exactly what I was looking for by coming here! People who actually know what they are talking about
I will be back with pics in a few hours! Thanks!
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Ok, so after going into the garage and looking at the thing, it is in pretty bad shape, I don't think he has touched the thing in 25 years. I mean, everything is there, it is just OLD and age is taking its toll. My dad never "kept it up" so to speak, he was more into his Anglia. So it sat forgotten in the garage. Now, my husband told me it was a rumble seat, but after looking at it, I don't think it is. The trunk part, where the rumble seat would go, I assume, opens like a regular trunk, so I am pretty sure no seat would be able to go in there. It is full of cob webs and a layer of dirt. But here are some pics. And the hood is up in the rafters of the garage, I took a pic of that too. It just is not on the car at this time. Oh and I am not sure about the tires, either. I was always told that they were original to the car, but I'm not sure about that now looking at them. And looking at the wheels, I think there might be hubcaps that go on there and if there is, they are sure to be around here somewhere. One of those times when I wish I could pick up the phone and call dad to ask him, lol....
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Fenders, Grill shell and Griffin all suggest this is a 1933. Nice to see the original air cleaner!
"Ric"
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I have the title. It says 1932. Unless those things were changed before my dad bought it in 1958, which could have been, but he was never made aware. Maybe Ill learn some more about this car that my dad didnt even know!
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Many states titled by the year sold, not model year., First few digits, or whole serial number would answer the year question. Tag is on firewall, passenger side. Also stamped on frame side rail just behind the front spring0
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Ok, I am going to go get the numbers, maybe you guys can decipher for me
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Telesha, can you give us the serial number on the title? Or, if you are hesitant about publishing that on the internet, could you give us the first three numbers? This will tell us for sure what the "model year" the car is, not when it was sold. (The car could have been sold in November of 1932, but been a 1933 model.)
The car does look like a '33 to my eyes, though that really wouldn't affect the value much. The fact that it is an early Terraplane, that it's a coupe, and that it appears to be "all there" and not badly damaged or ruster, would certainly add to its value. Of course, it's not worth the same as it would if it merely needed a washing and polishing to make it gleam!
Oops! Looks like Ric beat me to it, while I was still pecking away on the keyboard!
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Ok, the identification number (hope that is what you need, only number on the title) is 365059. Is that the right one?
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364125 is starting serial # for a 1933 Terraplane Model K, 106" wheel base.
This would be a lovely car to restore. It seems to be so complete,straight and solid.
Good luck with finding it a good home.
"Ric"
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Ok, so talking to my husband again, he seems to remember my dad maybe saying it was a 1933. So, you guys must be correct
Dad knew everything there was to know about every old car out there. It sucks not being able to ask him directly, lol. So now that we know that, I reread what you posted, Jon about the ad in the magazine. But we have to sell it sooner than later because we are planning on moving by June, when our daughter graduates. So I might have to put it on a fast track, like craigslist or something unless you guys have a better idea.
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But then I am back to a loss for an asking price. So, I am going to ask you guys! If you were in the market for a 1933 Essex Terraplane Model K, and you saw this one in its current condition, what would YOU be willing to pay for it?
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Hi, Telesha:
I realize your predicament but for your own sake, hold off as long as you can reasonably do, before you sell. Go ahead and put it on Craigslist but as soon as you can get some idea of asking price, send it to the White Triangle News which will be published in March. That's still enough time for people to read the ad and make you an offer and remember, the WTN goes JUST to Hudson people (about 2700 of them worldwide). Craigslist may get you a handful of readers who will "lowball" you on price, hoping to flip the car to someone else and make a quick buck. Another possibility is Hemmings Motor News (www.Hemmings.com) an
enormous monthly magazine of classified ads that goes out to tens of
thousands of antique car fanciers around the world. Probably cost you
$25-50 for a simple ad but it's "targeted" to just the right people. The other possibility (last resort) would be an Ebay auction.
If you (or someone you know) is handy with Internet stuff, see if you can get a webpage devoted to the car, to which you can upload lots of photos. Then you can give out the link to this page to anyone who e-mails you, rather than having to mail or e-mail them a lot of photos.
As to price, let's wait and see what people suggest, here. My guess is the absolute minimum would be $5,000, assuming everything is there, but I think you could do better...maybe much better. Dig around that garage (including the rafters!) for anything that looks like a car part and put that part with the car. If you have questions, photograph the mystery part and publish it here, and we can I.D. it as Hudson or non-Hudson.
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Ok! As long as I get it sold by June because if I don't, I will not have anyway to take it with us. We are not financially set enough to do anything like that. And I would hate to leave it in the garage for whomever buys the house from us
From the research I have done, I have seen the same vehicle in similar to even less than better condition going from 10k to 12k, but if they got that price is not known. I really dont expect to come close to that. From what I can tell, the entire car and parts are there, except the hub caps which my brother said he thinks three of four are somewhere in the garage. No rust to be found on it. So as far as quick sell, maybe I will try to sell the Anglia first and we can wait for the WTN to try to sell the Essex. I can do a webpage for the Essex. That is a good idea. I am sure there are free domains out there I can find. Oh and I misread what you posted about the WTN earlier, I thought you meant the issue wouldnt come out for two months. I got what you meant now. So if you really would sponsor me, I would be so grateful! I am going to pull it out of the garage in the next few days and blow if off and get some better pics. What else would you need for the ad?
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It's a good idea to check if the motor is stuck, try spinning by hand. Also, bumpers for this car are difficult to find, so make sure to look for them and list if you have them. In some states it is difficult if not impossible to title a car if there is no title, so assuming you have a usable one based on your comments above I would include that in your add.0
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I'm pretty sure both bumpers are in the garage somewhere. And we have a clean title. And all of the bills of sale for before it had a title. Gosh, I hope I can find the bumpers. Again, wishing I could call dad on the phone and ask him, lol
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Telesha, you will have to place the ad yourself in the WTN, and again, the deadline is Feb. 1 for the issue that's published in mid-March. Drop me an e-mail and I'll give you all the details you need as to submitting it. You can use my name as a reference and they should publish it.
By the way, do NOT attempt to start the car's engine unless you first drain the oil, then remove the pan and thoroughly clean it out. (In the process you could get under the car with a rag soaked in solvent like kerosine, and wipe down the interior of the engine, for the oil in there is old and cruddy!) Then of course you must put in new oil, any good modern motor oil will do, like 10 w 30. There are other things to keep in mind if you want to drive the car -- ask us first!
Jon Battle
XXXdetailed@verizon.net (drop the XXX before sending)
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Oh my, I am not even going to attempt to drive it!! I will email you soon! Thanks again
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I wish I was 20 years younger , I would like to restore that car. I'm only 15 miles away !
Not enough energy and ambition now.
Hopefully it doesn't get modified into a street rod. To nice for that.
I would avoid craigslist , you will sell it without that aggravation.
The AACA forum is another option, word spreads fast over there.
Check ebay listings for SOLD coupes in the 32/33 era. Add $1k because it's a low production
vehicle.
The effort you are taking will be worth it , find as many parts as you can.
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Lostmind is right; I forgot about the AACA (Antique Automobile Club of America) forum on the internet. The AACA is a reputable nonprofit antique car enthusiasts' organization almost as old as your Essex Terraplane, with local chapters and regions across the country. You don't have to be a club member to join their on-line forum, just devise a username and password as you did here. There is a separate"Buy / Sell" forum category and you can also advertise the car in the "Hudson" category. Here is the link: http://forums.aaca.org/
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Thanks guys! Hey Lostmind, I took my kids paddle boating at the Wellington at the Lorain COunty Metroparks this summer Wellington is beautiful!
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