VERY Interesting Hemmings Ad!

SamJ
SamJ Senior Contributor
edited November -1 in HUDSON
Great Plains Auctions has an interesting ad on page 161 of the May 2006 issue of Hemmings Motor News. Estate auction - looks like lots of Hudson cars, parts and memorabilia. Also a Website at this link...

http://www.greatplainsauction.net/sewardgallery.html

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  • SamJ
    SamJ Senior Contributor
    Oh, and you can bid online...
  • hdsn49
    hdsn49 Senior Contributor
    I looked at this ad before. There are many Hudsons listed. The most interesting Hudson I think is on page 7. It is decscribed as a 1953 "Fabulous" Hudson Hornet - NASCAR Style Paint. The car is a unrestored 53 hudson with faded lettering saying "Fabulous Hudson Hornet" Could this car be an actual Hornet that was raced back in the fifties. If so with documentation and a full restoration what would this car be worth?
  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    I remember seeing many cars lettered this way by Hudson dealers in North Carolina. A pretty good sales tool! I would imagine this was done throughout the country. it would seem rare for one to survive and not be repainted. Rare if it's VINTAGE regardless if it was a real racer or not. This collection must have belonged to a member?
  • I can't remember the guys name but he was a Hudson member and the car was raced locally in Kansas by a guy named Bob Moller. Niels
  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    I went back to the original posting and found that the auction did have the statement "The Estate of Dwayne Seward". The only seward I found in the 2005-2007 roster was in Arizona and different first name. That Hornet sure would be a high dollar car. I was impressed with the green two door that was misidentified as a "commodore super or some such". looks like a nice car. Sure wish I could be there. The conv may have some rust issues, but I bet it draws more than a few bids. I have to find out how that Ebay bidding works on a "live" auction. That's a new thing for me.
  • SamJ wrote:
    Great Plains Auctions has an interesting ad on page 161 of the May 2006 issue of Hemmings Motor News. Estate auction - looks like lots of Hudson cars, parts and memorabilia. Also a Website at this link...
    http://www.greatplainsauction.net/sewardgallery.html
    A while back, I went online and contacted the auction company. They responded to all of my questions, one of which was do you have an inventory listing. At the time of my questiion a total inventory of parts had not been completed. The email went on to say all the materials would be auctioned and as the date got closer the proceedure for conducting the auction would be better defined. They suggested I check with eBays site to learn more about the online live auction process. Waiting for the auction inventory to be finalized....

    Cheers
  • Having never done this ebay "live" thing before, I went to the ebay live auction site and poked around a bit to see if this would be something I'd like to do in future.



    Since the particular auction mentioned does not seem to be posted yet, no doubt due to the date being more than a month away, I decided to poke around the "Space Memorbilia" site to pretend I wanted to be a participant in this one.



    The first thing I learned was -- for heavens sake --- "read the terms and conditions" !!! I was aware there will be a "buyers commision" in the Kansas auction, ( 15% I believe ) so it wasn't a surprise to find an even higher one in this auction, but the stuff about how the auction company reserves the right to buy any item they want for themselves during the auction, sometimes using information unavailable to the bidders, ( such as hidden reserves ), without the buyers premium of course, kind of caused me to pause for reflection. Also the extensive section regarding "screw ups" on the part of the auction company, with respect to errors in description of the items being offered, the stated condition of those goods, etc. being no responsibility of the auction company, and basically coming down to the buyer "getting what he gets" and having little or no recourse after the fact, scares me a bit. Check out all the other charges that apply to your purchase also, such as handling, packing, shipping, insurance, etc, etc, etc. Sort of leads to "buyer beware" status in my book!



    Is the Kansas auction a "no reserve" auction ?? That would make quite a difference in the decision to attend in person I would think, considering the other charges that will be applied to any purchase, especially if done online through ebay.



    One will have to keep in mind that apparently the whole world is coming to this auction, and be prepared to have to bid accordingly.



    Just my humble opinion.



    silverone
  • silverone wrote:
    Having never done this ebay "live" thing before, I went to the ebay live auction site and poked around a bit to see if this would be something I'd like to do in future.

    Since the particular auction mentioned does not seem to be posted yet, no doubt due to the date being more than a month away, I decided to poke around the "Space Memorbilia" site to pretend I wanted to be a participant in this one.

    The first thing I learned was -- for heavens sake --- "read the terms and conditions" !!! I was aware there will be a "buyers commision" in the Kansas auction, ( 15% I believe ) so it wasn't a surprise to find an even higher one in this auction, but the stuff about how the auction company reserves the right to buy any item they want for themselves during the auction, sometimes using information unavailable to the bidders, ( such as hidden reserves ), without the buyers premium of course, kind of caused me to pause for reflection. Also the extensive section regarding "screw ups" on the part of the auction company, with respect to errors in description of the items being offered, the stated condition of those goods, etc. being no responsibility of the auction company, and basically coming down to the buyer "getting what he gets" and having little or no recourse after the fact, scares me a bit. Check out all the other charges that apply to your purchase also, such as handling, packing, shipping, insurance, etc, etc, etc. Sort of leads to "buyer beware" status in my book!

    Is the Kansas auction a "no reserve" auction ?? That would make quite a difference in the decision to attend in person I would think, considering the other charges that will be applied to any purchase, especially if done online through ebay.

    One will have to keep in mind that apparently the whole world is coming to this auction, and be prepared to have to bid accordingly.

    Just my humble opinion.

    silverone
    Silverone...

    Thanks for your post... you and I must have been there at the same time... as I just came back to post a similar reaction to my experience... while I had intended to be a participant... will not now... do not know if I will take the time to got to KS... have relatives in the area... but will not be joining in for the same reasons you give.

    My Centavos :(

    Cheers
  • Maybe there is someone who lives close to the auction that would attend for us... Niels
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    Silver - in addition to the auction premium of 15%, I'm sure Ks. has a sales tax which will be collected too.

    The convertible has an Olds V8 in it so motormounts, at least, have been modified, perhaps rear frame support chopped or removed & who knows what else.
  • If somehow the 1929 Hudson ends up closer to Southern California then it is now and parted out I would be interested in the driver side fender and spare tire hardware and maybe other parts. It looks like a Biddle & Smart body but if the doors are gone along with what looks like alot of parts its most likley a parts car & thats to bad. Thanks Ron sultans@webtv.net Also the horn and mounting hardware. And And And And LOL. Thanks again Ron
  • SamJ
    SamJ Senior Contributor
    It appears they've posted more photos...
  • 464Saloon
    464Saloon Senior Contributor
    I only show 5 pages and there is a 53 on that page but no Fabulous Hornet paint that I can see. Car is pretty beat. Did all these cars belong to the same owner. That 71 Chevelle will go big the way muscle cars have been going on Barret Jackson
  • Well, I am also very interested in at least a dozen items or so that are now listed on e-bay, but ya'll have got me scared off of it. I would probably be interested in working with someone we know that would be personally attending.



    Russell
  • The auction company estimates are rather wide ranging. For instance for an item: $5,000 to $50,000. It all seems somewhat in the sky?
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