Cars??????Who In The Hell Cares ??

Ron P wrote:

I sure do not. Why should I ? You younger folks looking to make a million on your old Hudson ? Good Luck. I like my 1929 Hudson and I have it because I do like it. I am not looking for some kinda big $$$$$$ to appear from no where. If I owned a Studebaker should I be mad ? Or a Essex, Teraplane, And heck..throw in a Duesenburg for Christ sake,.Just love what you have and get over this CARS crap...Thanks Ron, Just my Opinion

Ron,



You're only got a few years on me. I don't consider myself old and neither should you. Let your hair down (hope you still have yours) and go see the movie. That aside, I love you your attitude. As long as you love what you have, that's all that matters. I bet you have a great dislike for judges at car shows. LOL



Dave

rambos_ride]I have to agree somewhat - I've said it before and I'll say it again...the Cars phenomenon will have little to no effect on pricing of real Hudsons!

I bet there is not a single person on the forum that knows anyone or has heard of anyone buying a Hudson Coupe because it was an automobile featured in Cars. Now I'm not talking about Hudsons that were used or made for the movie wrote:

your[/U] 2 door coupe or your neighbors.

Now it could be argued that just the increase in Brand recognition could have some push upwards on valuations of Hudsons - there have been plenty of testimonials on the forum about folks recognizing a "Doc" out on the street from seeing the movie - where as before they might of thought it was a Merc.

Most kids these days are more into current NASCAR and Tuner Cars. 2 trains of thought - 1) most kids don't like anything old..period 2) they will never have the mechanical apptitude, guidance or money to buy and fix an old car.

Now maybe if someone built a "drifter" Hudson with a rice burner engine maybe the kids will pick it up!

The big bucks now in Hudsons and always (IMHO) is going to be those that have some type of DOCUMENTED historical significance - The true race built Hudsons, Prototypes, Convertibles and as always the Italias (wonder what that 1-of-a-kind x-161 is worth these days?) - what do all of these have in common? Rarity...low production numbers; one of a kind; 0r race history take your pick.

I think you are somewhat wrong about what the kids like nowadays. My 20 year old son and 18 year old daughter's friends think that my Super Wasp sedan is the coolest thing on wheels. I bet that I have had 75-100 kids come over to the house just to see the car. I had a 63 Corvette split window that got less attention than the Hudson, at least from the kids. Now whether they would buy one is an different matter. But, for sure, they wouldn't mind being seen in one.
Bob

MadMike128SL wrote:

If your from the land down under are you not a decendant of an English convict?:D

Did the Plymoth Fury go up in value after the movie Christine? I will admit I was surpised not to see any of those cars around restored or running over shitters after the movie came out.

I saw more Hudsons after the Bruce Willis movie Hudson Hawk though.:p

The answer to your question about the Plymouth Fury (the coupe like Christine) is yes they did go up... tremendously.

Still waiting for someone to sell a # 3 condition 51 to 53 Hornet Coupe for $15,000. I wonder why I can't find one? LOL

My kids are 12 and 15, and both of them fight over who gets the next old truck I acquire (the 15-yr-old has his already; in fact, it's his third!). Both love to drive the '71 Dodge D100 that is my oldest's. Both will have their opportunity to drive the finished Terraplane before it goes to the Nationals. Both like monster trucks and tuners, too, but both can identify nearly any post-war Hudson, Mopar, or Chevy --- pretty damn good for "none of the kids these days look at old cars", or something like that!

I've been to both coasts too many times - that's one reason I live where I do. I'll take "fly-over country" anyday.

Who Cares?!? Anyone who loves orphan cars cares!! You Hudson guys are carrying the flag for the rest of us, in the hopes that Hollywood, who has never been friendly to us orphan types before now, will stand up and take notice. Our only exposure before now that I can remember was in The Muppet Movie where Fozz E. Bear (sp?) drives a bullet-nosed Studebaker, and I'm not real sure that it was intended to be complimentary. And if you remember the teen-angst-pseudo-'50's movie Mischief (can't remember actor's names here, but Kelly Preston was in it), the leather-jacketed hero remarks to the nerdy kid about his car: "A Studebaker?! That's worse than a DeSoto!!":mad: :mad: Never mind the Hawks, R-series Larks, Avantis, etc.

The point is, orphan cars have LONG been the automotive kick-puppies of Hollywood (which is not surprising since so much of the Big Three's money backs them) and it's about time we start to see this trend reversed. Hope it carries through for the rest of us.

WHOA...grumpy old geezer.....No wonder kids are waiting fer the OLD FARTS to die off before they show their affection for Our Hudsons...



Turn off the lights at Halloween, put out the Doberman Pincer and run the little rapscallions off

Geoff C., N.Z. wrote:

LIke I've said before, there is no "Best" Hudson. The vast majority of people here have never heard of Hudson, Essex, or Terraplane, let alone Railton or Brough Superior. I love driving my '29 Hudson super six 7 passenger sedan. Then again, there's nothing quite like taking the '53 Hornet to town and letting the kids recognize something from "Cars. Or getting out in the '54 Jet Liner and watching the other motorists trying to work out what it is. (Humber, Holden, Vanguard, Honda, Hillman, ???) But I still have my favourite, the '28 Essex Coach. Done half a million miles, and trundles along as reliable as ever. Unfortunately there has been too much "factioning" in the club over the years. Let's accept each other for what we are - fellow members in a non-judging club. This is one of the greatest assets we have - we don't judge the cars, let's not judge each other either. And whatever your model of H.E.T car, show it proudly to the great unwashed and uneducated masses!

Geoff.

Amen Geoff!!!!

Jay

Geoff C., N.Z. wrote:

LIke I've said before, there is no "Best" Hudson. The vast majority of people here have never heard of Hudson, Essex, or Terraplane, let alone Railton or Brough Superior. I love driving my '29 Hudson super six 7 passenger sedan. Then again, there's nothing quite like taking the '53 Hornet to town and letting the kids recognize something from "Cars. Or getting out in the '54 Jet Liner and watching the other motorists trying to work out what it is. (Humber, Holden, Vanguard, Honda, Hillman, ???) But I still have my favourite, the '28 Essex Coach. Done half a million miles, and trundles along as reliable as ever. Unfortunately there has been too much "factioning" in the club over the years. Let's accept each other for what we are - fellow members in a non-judging club. This is one of the greatest assets we have - we don't judge the cars, let's not judge each other either. And whatever your model of H.E.T car, show it proudly to the great unwashed and uneducated masses!

Geoff.

Everyone should be entitled to an opinion on cars and that's one of the things that makes this forum interesting. We all have our preferences but that doesn't mean we don't appreciate another model (just like women!). Personally, I wouldn't care if the Club judged cars or not.

As has been discussed before here, one the only ways to expand HET to a broader base is to officially target larger mixed make meets and endorse (not force) the local chapter presence to attend. I really enjoy driving my Hudsons and I would think HET members would want to show off their cars to the public and not just each other.

Also, I don't see why they are two Southern California Chapters (So Cal and Inland Empire). It should be treated like a business. Combine them into a larger, more powerful local chapter that can take advantage of economies of scale and increased resources. Makes absolutely no sense to have two redundant chapters sitting right next to each other. Geographically, there is no excuse. It should make little to no difference for anyones travel. Combining the chapters would make our gatherings larger, more entertaining, and allow us to interact with more Hudson members. It would also help vendors and members that deal in the Hudson hobby and help those seeking Hudson resources. Combine both newsletters, etc, etc.



Ok, time for breakfast.....

TOM B wrote:

WHOA...grumpy old geezer.....No wonder kids are waiting fer the OLD FARTS to die off before they show their affection for Our Hudsons...



Turn off the lights at Halloween, put out the Doberman Pincer and run the little rapscallions off

I second that a trillionfold!!! The POINT is: Exposure, exposure, exposure!! You sit there and wonder why we care? I DO get sick of constantly answering questions about what it is (read the damn script on the fender) and who made it (read the damn plate on the firewall). I blame this infinite ignorance on: 1) our public 'schrool' system where our 'teachers' and 'professors' (who are little more than Marxist indoctrinates) believe the 1950's were only the bad old days of Jim Crow laws, unliberated June Cleaver-type housewives, and gas-guzzling dinosaurs that they feel should all be scrunched to make new Toyota Hybrids, and this is what they fill our kids' Young Skulls Full of Mush with; and 2) the influence of Hollywood and the Mass Media who teach people that the only cars that existed (or mattered) before 1990 were 1955-56-57 Chevys and Ford Mustangs. If you think all we care about is increasing the resale value of our Hudsons and other orphans, you could not possibly be more wrong. The POINT is, we are finally getting the POSITIVE recognition we deserve and making the general public aware that there is more to automotive history than Genital Morons, Frod and Crustler. THAT is why "Cars" is such a big deal to us. It carries the flag not just for Hudson, but for the rest of us orphan-lovers as well.

If you can't understand that point, please sell your orphan car to those of us who give a tinker's damn and get yourself a 1955-56-57 Shove-it or a Frod Rustdung like the rest of the fashion fascists.(:mad: :mad: :mad: X infinity)

Breathes there a man with soul so dead, who never to himself hath said: "My marque is the greatest in all the land!"? Evidently so.