Radiator and oil filter line hoses?
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I assume you got a stepdown....
If you still have the stock flathead in it, here you go...
I was able to go to Autozone and match up the upper and lower radiator hoses with what they had in stock. Right now the part numbers escape me, but I think they were like somewhere between 050 and 080 (larger hoses, autozone numbers) I needed to do a minimal amount of trimming nad shortening, and they work great. correct bends, etc...
As far as oil line hoses, use brake line and bend it to fit. I think similar "hose" is available but I got a hudson oil filter unit that had the original metal lines and they were fine.
Check out Ken Cate's website for more info on the oil lines, it's on there somewhere, I think central tractor or something as such... his site has always been a great resource...
Also, Dave Kostensak in Ohioland has the correct upper and lower radiator hoses available, but it sounds like you want them ASAP, to get it running.0 -
two 1/8" (perhaps it 1/4" its been a while) pipe plugs for the oil lines and change your oil, the filters don't do much other than dress up the engine. losing a line could be damaging or at least leave you stranded. if you feel the need to hook it up, take the origional lines to your local napa, they usually can build the hose you need, all the origonal lines i have seen have been woven flex lines not steel. as a side note, do not install the unit on a 54 with power brakes, or have twin h and oil bath cleaners, do not install the unit as it is a bear to access the dipstick.0
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nick s wrote:two 1/8" (perhaps it 1/4" its been a while) pipe plugs for the oil lines and change your oil, the filters don't do much other than dress up the engine. losing a line could be damaging or at least leave you stranded. if you feel the need to hook it up, take the origional lines to your local napa, they usually can build the hose you need, all the origonal lines i have seen have been woven flex lines not steel. as a side note, do not install the unit on a 54 with power brakes, or have twin h and oil bath cleaners, do not install the unit as it is a bear to access the dipstick.
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The 54 with power brakes and oil filter uses a longer dip stick and an extended dip stick tube. Something to look out for if you see an old engine laying around! I have not tried the oil bath air cleaners, the standard filters give plenty of room. Dave W.0 -
sorry forgot to put what its for its for a 1949 Hudson 60
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For What It's Worth....I live nearby a Parker-Hannifin store, and simply went to them with the lengths I needed, as well as the fitting sizes (the block holes are indeed 1/8" Pipe Thread), and had a custom flexible set made up for my '49 262. They're top quality lines that certainly could still fail, but that seems highly unlikely. I guess I'll take that slim chance over no filtering at all, even though it's just a partial flow filter arrangement. I have cut open filters after 2-3 thousand miles and was glad that all of the gunk I found was in the filter and not still in the engine.0
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SuperDave wrote:\
The 54 with power brakes and oil filter uses a longer dip stick and an extended dip stick tube. Something to look out for if you see an old engine laying around! I have not tried the oil bath air cleaners, the standard filters give plenty of room. Dave W.
I will look out for one, even without the filter installed it will make checking the oil easier. Was this by chance a hash era change retrofitted to '54's? PAUL?
Any unmolested 54 i've seen has ever the options mixed. I had seen obviously home made extentions of either the dipstick or the dipstick and tube but never factory, I know the parts book lists it as unavailable with the oil bath twin-h or power brakes at least per the book (of course the hudson didn't exactly follow the book themselves nor did the dealers) Immediately after installing the canister on my '54 w/ power brakes the reason for the exclusion was evident.0 -
nick is right. try using an oil filter with oil bath twin h air cleaners is all but impossible. I have it on mine, with a lot of squeezing, but to change the filter, both air cleaners have to come off, heck, the front filter has to come off to add oil!
That's why I am trying to finish up the paper filer twin h air cleaners....
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yes nick paul here no help from the hash cars butif i were you i would remove thew oil filter and go with out one just change the oil every 1500 miles0
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PAULARGETYPE wrote:yes nick paul here no help from the hash cars butif i were you i would remove thew oil filter and go with out one just change the oil every 1500 miles
this thread has been as educational as trying to initially install the filter. as far as the filter, its been gone for about 15 yrs. probably didn't spend a month on the car. the new hoses were never hooked up and the housing pretty housing was yanked back off pretty quick (probably the second time i checked the oil)
super dave shed some light on the dipstick - the parts book shows a different dipstick for '54s with power brakes. interestingly my parts book has some pencil notes left by dealer throughout it most are just circles or lines but with the dipsticks their overall lengths are listed as: 12-15/16 without PB and 23-3/8" with PB. per superdave, the PB dipstick has an extended tube which bolts to the oil filter mounting boss. which would be another issue with having the filter.
i have been into at least (4) PB cars over the years and hadn't noticed one before. also i have never noticed such a 'factory' extended dipstick on any other cars which makes me wonder how consistant the factory was at proving the extendended parts. those "always use this except" rules tend to not work so good. I know. My company's products have lots of those quirks and they do tend to show up in the quality reports.0 -
Tore down a unmolested 54 sedan with PB/and oil bath filters. It had the longer dip stick tube. But two others with paper filters and power brakes did not. I think you had to have a oil bath set up and power brakes to qualify for the longer dip stick.0
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I resurected this thread after finding more information on the "dip stick "issue... No not me..the 54 long dip stic issue LOL
The 54 I found with the extended dip stick was a mid October 54 production car that had factory Twin H and the "hash" type dry filters with the AMC decals. Also this car had a drivers side fender mount factory antenna.. Must have been a constant product improvment project in 54. I made an extension for my 49 using a copper tube and a GM automatic transmission dip stick cut and marked correctly. I have GM hydroboost brakes and getting to the dip stick was nearly impossible. Changing the clutch fluid is also a B###h!..0 -
If your filter is located on the inner fender you need flex lines. Figure out the lengths needed and go to a parts store, Most of them have Weatherhead products available and they make perfect lines.0
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SuperDave wrote:I resurected this thread after finding more information on the "dip stick "issue... No not me..the 54 long dip stic issue LOL
The 54 I found with the extended dip stick was a mid October 54 production car that had factory Twin H and the "hash" type dry filters with the AMC decals. Also this car had a drivers side fender mount factory antenna.. Must have been a constant product improvment project in 54. I made an extension for my 49 using a copper tube and a GM automatic transmission dip stick cut and marked correctly. I have GM hydroboost brakes and getting to the dip stick was nearly impossible. Changing the clutch fluid is also a B###h!..
SuperDave,
I've had good luck changing clutch fluid all from down below. It's a simple two screw removal to take off the inspection cover. You can then rotate the drain plug to the 6:00 position with a screwdriver to drain, and then to the 4:30 position to fill. It will take the full 6 oz. at that position without draining out. I guess one more important tool is a pump type oil can. I bought a small one that I just use for Hudsonite, and put a flexible plastic hose on it. Works great!0 -
hudsonguy wrote:SuperDave,
I've had good luck changing clutch fluid all from down below. It's a simple two screw removal to take off the inspection cover. You can then rotate the drain plug to the 6:00 position with a screwdriver to drain, and then to the 4:30 position to fill. It will take the full 6 oz. at that position without draining out. I guess one more important tool is a pump type oil can. I bought a small one that I just use for Hudsonite, and put a flexible plastic hose on it. Works great!
A good tip....Yep, That's exactly what I did the last time.. after I dropped the plug into the flywheel housing! It helps to have a two post lift so I don't have to lay on my back on the floor.
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Ahh...a lift. What I would give for a lift. Maybe if I install a rope hanging down from the ceiling I can pull myself up off the creeper!0
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hudsonguy wrote:Ahh...a lift. What I would give for a lift. Maybe if I install a rope hanging down from the ceiling I can pull myself up off the creeper!
I resemble that remark! It seems as time goes by, gravity takes a bigger hold on my old carcuss!
Jerry
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