Update on the Chrysler Hornet (your going to love this one!)

50C8DAN wrote:

Well this is great a Chinese Hornet, just what we need! I am sure Mr. Barit is spinning about now!



http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/07/31/chrysler-could-turn-to-chinese-for-hornet-partner/

COOL....I could put in the trunk of my 54 Wasp and use it fer a spare tire

Dave, the Pontiac LeMans name was disgraced by that little Opel Kadett built by Daewoo of Korea. Yes, they were a POS car.



Hudson is not the only one to having names of the past jacked up by a new POS that is nothing like it's namesake.

Whoa! What are they thinking?

Martin200 wrote:

Dave, I second that a googolfold!! (That's ten to the hundredth power) Despite Chrysler's successes with the PT Cruiser, the new 300s and the new Dodge Charger, I think that the "German touch" is going to wind up hurting them. On that same website is an article stating that the "Dr. Z" ads are already not sitting well with the American people. Most think he's a fictional character (as did I until I saw the article; he's actually D-C's chairman) or they can't understand the German accent (not a problem for me; half my family's German/Polish) or that the idea of German/foreign control over quintessentially American MoPar is anathema (an idea I foster, but am slowly and reluctantly getting used to it). Another thing that doesn't help is the German attitude toward MoPar; I read an article recently that stated that many of the Daimler-Benz execs say they like to pronounce "DaimlerChrysler" with a "silent Chrysler."

If they want to stick a Hornet nameplate on something, the Chrysler 300C comes as close to the spirit of a modern-day Hudson Hornet as anything I've seen out there so far. After all, they do claim ownership of the Hudson nameplate through their acquisition of AMC's assets; why not reintroduce it on the 300 platform and make it a limited-edition high-luxury performance car? If they want to resurrect a nameplate for the ChiCom econobox, they've got a lot of old MoPar names that would be more suitable: Dart, Valiant, Polara, Phoenix, etc. rather than dirtying the Hornet name on that thing. As for its looks, seems like it's a scramble to come up with a MoPar version of the Mini Cooper.:rolleyes:

Martin,



You're right about the German touch hurting DC corp. Everytime I run into mechanics from the local multi-make dealer, I ask them what the most problematic car is that they sell. They always reply MB. While talking with a client who owns several local dealerships, one of which sells DC products, he laments about the poor quality MB parts being used on Chrylser products he sells. As far as Dr. Deiter Z goes, I think he would be fun to have at a party. I'd fill him full of American beer and send him on his way in one of his company's products. That'll fix him. As far as DC's ownership over everything Hudson is concerned, Cadillac Motor Car once sued Cadillac Dog Food over the use of "their" name. The court determined that it was unlikely that the public would mistake Cadillac Dog Food as manufacturing cars or visa versa. The court was disturbed by the filing because Cadillac Motor Car had itself used a (family) name without permission. The case was dismissed. So how is it that DC can lay claim to J.L. Hudson's name and words that are in common use. But if they are going to pirate names, why not apply them to quality cars as you said. I bet that if/when the ersatz Chinese Hornet leaves the hive, most people will remember the name as it relates to the AMC rattle trap of old, not the Fabulous Hudson Hornet. That should do wonders for sales. I cracked up at your suggestion to use some old Chysler names for the car. I vote for naming the new econo box entry model the Sport Satellite with the top of the line offering (complete with Corinthian leather and Super-Light) being the Monaco Brougham. If DC wants to compete with the Mini, perhaps they should stay with the Hudson Hornet theme but name their new baby Hornet "Larve." Fresh from a hive near you.

66patrick66 wrote:

The Hudson and Nash names and their respective model names became property of American Motors upon the merger of the two. When Chrysler bought out AMC in 1987, they then became property of Chrysler Motor Corporation. When the "merger of equals" occurred in 1999, those same names (and ALL of the Mopar names and trademarks) became property of Daimler-Chrysler.



That's how they do it.

Yes, I'm aware of what you stated. However, J.L. Hudson's name is in the public domain as are many of the common English words used as model names. What resides within the public domain cannot be privately owned. If I'm wrong, I claim stake to all words begining with the letter A and expect the world to pay me for their use or else. :rolleyes:

jsrail wrote:

Just ask anyone who has ever used HD, H-D, etc. Harley Davidson is all over you before you can blink an eye. And they can tie you up in court until you are bankrupt!



Jay

I bet if your name was Mr. Harley Davidson, and you wanted to start a business with that name, the courts could not prevent you from using it as long as you didn't build motorcycles. The courts cannot force an entity to "assume" a name other than their own.

I don't know how Daimler-Chrysler treats hobbiests, but GM legal requires anyone (car clubs for example) using their trademarked names to fill out a request form. The $500.00 fee is waived for car clubs. Before permission for use is granted, GM reserves the right to review how the images, names and logos they lay claim to are going to used.

BTW, a guy named Harley Davidson DID get shut down from using his name on a restaurant in Colorado several years ago.[/QUOTE]



He must have had a crappy attorney. :rolleyes: Should have used the one that Cadillac Dog Food used when they prevailed in defense against Cadillac Motor Car.

jsrail wrote:

He must have had a crappy attorney. :rolleyes: Should have used the one that Cadillac Dog Food used when they prevailed in defense against Cadillac Motor Car.[/quote]



What I have learned over the years is that it rarely makes a difference if you are right or wrong..........its who has the most attorneys!



Jay[/QUOTE]



I'm with you there but will add the fact that justice is available to all...for a price.