Become a Hudson Parts Dealer
Gene and Myrna have listed thier Hudson parts inventory on eBay... this will stash will put you into the Hudson Parts business. Check it out....
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Good Luck to you both GandM
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Good Luck to you both GandM
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Heart_Of_Texas wrote:Gene and Myrna have listed thier Hudson parts inventory on eBay... this will stash will put you into the Hudson Parts business. Check it out....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-Used-Hudson-Parts-1930-1957-1-000s-of-parts_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ10076QQihZ013QQitemZ230026386289QQrdZ1
Good Luck to you both GandM
Without an inventory of parts... anyone have any ideas what this stash might be worth?
Have the parts been well taken care of or left to the elements?
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Eshelmans are in Idaho they are good people and the last I talked to them the parts were inside.
Seems to me this would be a great stash of parts and worth a lot more than they will propably get.0 -
51hornetA wrote:Eshelmans are in Idaho they are good people and the last I talked to them the parts were inside.
Seems to me this would be a great stash of parts and worth a lot more than they will propably get.
Darn timing is everything...:(
I sold my house a month ago and this Friday I'm heading to Eastern Washington to look at some potential new properties with humoungous shop space..if timing were different and I already had a home purchased over there (Eastern Washington) I'd head over and take a serious look with an eye to bid on the stash - what a stash of parts!
It would be nice to inventory and get them to folks who need them as well as have parts available for builds and restorations!
Maybe if they don't sell it right away...???0 -
rambos_ride wrote:Darn timing is everything...:(
I sold my house a month ago and this Friday I'm heading to Eastern Washington to look at some potential new properties with humoungous shop space..if timing were different and I already had a home purchased over there (Eastern Washington) I'd head over and take a serious look with an eye to bid on the stash - what a stash of parts!
It would be nice to inventory and get them to folks who need them as well as have parts available for builds and restorations!
Maybe if they don't sell it right away...???
Dan, maybe buy them and have them agree to store the parts for you for 3 months or so. Make it work!0 -
nhp1127 wrote:Dan, maybe buy them and have them agree to store the parts for you for 3 months or so. Make it work!
Neils,
Sounds like a good idea for you with you growing collection and your flexible work schedule. This may be your calling;)0 -
Seems to me folks we need to very careful letting a store of parts this big move outside the Hudson community. If some of the guys we see on ebay all the time buy it then we can expect to be paying triple for our parts in the future. We should see if we can get a couple of guys together to buy if Neils won't LOL but seriously I worry about stuff like this. I live in Canada and would have a bit of trouble getting this stuff home but its worth a hard look.
Don't do it for yourself do it for us LOL:D0 -
51hornetA wrote:Seems to me folks we need to very careful letting a store of parts this big move outside the Hudson community. If some of the guys we see on ebay all the time buy it then we can expect to be paying triple for our parts in the future. We should see if we can get a couple of guys together to buy if Neils won't LOL but seriously I worry about stuff like this. I live in Canada and would have a bit of trouble getting this stuff home but its worth a hard look.
Don't do it for yourself do it for us LOL:D
I would think that it would benefit them to inventory the stuff if they want to get a fair price for it. I can't see most people being willing to spend that kind of money for a "grab bag" of parts. If I bought it I would not sell to anyone who lives outside of the United States- LOL0 -
nhp1127 wrote:I would think that it would benefit them to inventory the stuff if they want to get a fair price for it. I can't see most people being willing to spend that kind of money for a "grab bag" of parts. If I bought it I would not sell to anyone who lives outside of the United States- LOL
The pictures remind me a little of Bill's place. I can't imagine how he would inventory or sell his complete business. These people have been collecting as they go for some 50 years and we don't live forever and when the time comes to get rid of it all, I really don't think the thought crosses their mind how they would sell it all when the time came.0 -
Originally it looked interesting........"Find the rare parts we are all searching for".........."make a little money on something we love to do"............"preserve the Hudson line".............but when one looks at the pictures compared to the price being asked, especially without any knowledge of what is truely there, one might as well put their money in "cheese curls"!
If this was a great buy, (such as the one discribed in Hot Rod a few months ago which had around 6-10 semi trailers full of ultra rare chevy cars, engines, etc) why hasn't one of the "current" main Hudson players jumped on it already?
I dont want to sound like too much of a party pooper but not knowing exactly what one is buying is never a good thing, especially when dealing with the kind of money they are asking!!0 -
Time to through in our 2 cents. If you don't know we own about 300 NOS and other parts and sell them on the HETparts.com store.
So here is our experience in a nutshell.
First off it cost us a couple of grand to get it. I had a friend speed a day layout the collection and photographing it. Then we bought it and shipped it. Then we spent DAYS inventorying it and pricing it. Then we spent DAYS photographing each piece and putting it on the store. Lots of ads and emails to tell folks about it.
It was difficult working with WTN at first but it worked out in the end. We wanted to send them printed lists to send with the Magazine but they won't do it. This was to reach those folks that don't have internet.
$$$$ At first we sold a few hundred dollars of stuff at some local meets and then some on ebay. Only a few things through the Magazine.
Here are my observations. First I am very computer literate and I built the k-gap site. Love those guys. If you take a close look at ebay you will see that less than 10% of hudson stuff actually sells. Most of the big collection of parts guys tried to have ebay stores but quite them when they didn't bring in enough money.
We are about half way to getting our money back and 1.5 years later. At the current rate it will be 3 more years or more.
Heavy parts don't pay to sell pack and ship. Lots of time and effort.
Here is what I propose. And I have done this quite a few times already. We need a "What I need" Registry. A online DB for folks to put in what they want. The guys who have all of the part are great guys but they don't want to inventory their stuff or photograph it. But if you call them they will look and get back to you.
So we could put this DB up and then the parts sellers could reply when they get time to check their inventory. I get about 3 email a week from folks looking for parts.
Well what do you guys think?
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Cosmo@avaloncity.com wrote:Time to through in our 2 cents. If you don't know we own about 300 NOS and other parts and sell them on the HETparts.com store.
So here is our experience in a nutshell.
First off it cost us a couple of grand to get it. I had a friend speed a day layout the collection and photographing it. Then we bought it and shipped it. Then we spent DAYS inventorying it and pricing it. Then we spent DAYS photographing each piece and putting it on the store. Lots of ads and emails to tell folks about it.
It was difficult working with WTN at first but it worked out in the end. We wanted to send them printed lists to send with the Magazine but they won't do it. This was to reach those folks that don't have Internet.
$$$$ At first we sold a few hundred dollars of stuff at some local meets and then some on eBay. Only a few things through the Magazine.
Here are my observations. First I am very computer literate and I built the k-gap site. Love those guys. If you take a close look at eBay you will see that less than 10% of Hudson stuff actually sells. Most of the big collection of parts guys tried to have eBay stores but quite them when they didn't bring in enough money.
We are about half way to getting our money back and 1.5 years later. At the current rate it will be 3 more years or more.
Heavy parts don't pay to sell pack and ship. Lots of time and effort.
Here is what I propose. And I have done this quite a few times already. We need a "What I need" Registry. A online DB for folks to put in what they want. The guys who have all of the part is great guys but they don't want to inventory their stuff or photograph it. But if you call them they will look and get back to you.
So we could put this DB up and then the parts sellers could reply when they get time to check their inventory. I get about 3 email a week from folks looking for parts.
Well what do you guy think?
I own my servers etc. So hosting is no problem.
Mike your HONEST missive is the best description of the Hudson or any other orphan marque parts seller experience I have seen!
Let me back you up with the following: Gene and Myrna have invested a lot of time effort and money in the parts stash offered on eBay. They have been HETers for many years and actually thought that they would have a fairly easy time of selling off the parts they have accumulated. If you ask either now... they are ready to GET OUT of the business. The idea that Hudson owners or International Truck restorers would be knocking down the door has faded into the reality of carting parts here and there and not making the sales that pay for the travel expenses. Getting counters to their prices from folks who do not want to pay the asking price. A large part of the "INVENTORY" they are offering came from the McDonald Stash ... Mr. McDonald was a fellow who had no written inventory... but could tell you on the telephone if he had a part or not... mostly NOS and nothing stored so any other person would know how to find the part. He operated this business for decades and always filled my orders for a fair price and shipped promptly. When he passed G & M decided to buy this stash and combine it with theirs... months later and half of a dozen tracter trailer loads moved from Seattle to Idaho their dream began... today tired and maybe a bit disallusioned they are ready to get out to this ... Business? A friend of mine is there now picking up a vehicle. Part of his time will be devoted to determining what the STASH really consists of and honestly mulling over the potential of resale. If that comes to pass, these parts will again take labor to load and inventory, not counting a long journey to a new storage location.
G&M are not the only ones who have experienced the phenomenon of orphan parts dealership blues. A former USAF friend of mine moved from California to mid America in the early 1970's. This man had cleaned out the Hudson stashes at six former dealers and had accumulated another five from other HETers. Along with 8 rare Stepdown... when have you seen a 51 C 8 Hollywood or a 52 C 6 Hollywood? In his California storage were 8 tons of assorted rust free sheet metal, engines and transmissions. He tried to sell the used parts, then give them away... finally he and I loaded his 47 3/4 ton Hudson pickup with many loaded and crossed the scales of the nearest scrap yard for so many pennies per pound. Yes, that happened to 8 tons of parts. The NOS stuff we transported to his new duty station... he carefully inventoried and placed these items on shelves in a heated building. Advertising by word of mouth and the WTN, he was confounded by many inquiries whose core request was to get this or that part of less than the asking price. Then NOS parking light frames were bringing 5-10 dollars. Folks thought that outrageous. After several years my friend became disgusted, quit the HET club and pulled his parts from the public. That stash exists today... as do some of the cars...all stored in a Butler building built to house them under lock and key. Are they for sale... probably not.
Not trying to rain on the enthusiasm of the folks who come here to exchange information and greetings... But if you want the parts... make it YOUR Business to buy and pay the price required. Many talk about it ... most do nothing else. In the hay day of the early club... we gave parts to each other ... but then again that was 20+ years ago.
Good Luck to G&M and I hope my friend figures a way to purchase the lot. But if he does not ... remember what I posted above.
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Heart_Of_Texas wrote:Mike your HONEST missive is the best description of the Hudson or any other orphan marque parts seller experience I have seen!
Let me back you up with the following: Gene and Myrna have invested a lot of time effort and money in the parts stash offered on eBay. They have been HETers for many years and actually thought that they would have a fairly easy time of selling off the parts they have accumulated. If you ask either now... they are ready to GET OUT of the business. The idea that Hudson owners or International Truck restorers would be knocking down the door has faded into the reality of carting parts here and there and not making the sales that pay for the travel expenses. Getting counters to their prices from folks who do not want to pay the asking price. A large part of the "INVENTORY" they are offering came from the McDonald Stash ... Mr. McDonald was a fellow who had no written inventory... but could tell you on the telephone if he had a part or not... mostly NOS and nothing stored so any other person would know how to find the part. He operated this business for decades and always filled my orders for a fair price and shipped promptly. When he passed G & M decided to buy this stash and combine it with theirs... months later and half of a dozen tracter trailer loads moved from Seattle to Idaho their dream began... today tired and maybe a bit disallusioned they are ready to get out to this ... Business? A friend of mine is there now picking up a vehicle. Part of his time will be devoted to determining what the STASH really consists of and honestly mulling over the potential of resale. If that comes to pass, these parts will again take labor to load and inventory, not counting a long journey to a new storage location.
G&M are not the only ones who have experienced the phenomenon of orphan parts dealership blues. A former USAF friend of mine moved from California to mid America in the early 1970's. This man had cleaned out the Hudson stashes at six former dealers and had accumulated another five from other HETers. Along with 8 rare Stepdown... when have you seen a 51 C 8 Hollywood or a 52 C 6 Hollywood? In his California storage were 8 tons of assorted rust free sheet metal, engines and transmissions. He tried to sell the used parts, then give them away... finally he and I loaded his 47 3/4 ton Hudson pickup with many loaded and crossed the scales of the nearest scrap yard for so many pennies per pound. Yes, that happened to 8 tons of parts. The NOS stuff we transported to his new duty station... he carefully inventoried and placed these items on shelves in a heated building. Advertising by word of mouth and the WTN, he was confounded by many inquiries whose core request was to get this or that part of less than the asking price. Then NOS parking light frames were bringing 5-10 dollars. Folks thought that outrageous. After several years my friend became disgusted, quit the HET club and pulled his parts from the public. That stash exists today... as do some of the cars...all stored in a Butler building built to house them under lock and key. Are they for sale... probably not.
Not trying to rain on the enthusiasm of the folks who come here to exchange information and greetings... But if you want the parts... make it YOUR Business to buy and pay the price required. Many talk about it ... most do nothing else. In the hay day of the early club... we gave parts to each other ... but then again that was 20+ years ago.
Good Luck to G&M and I hope my friend figures a way to purchase the lot. But if he does not ... remember what I posted above.
Cheers from the HOT
Do they have an address and phone number? I have a friend that might be interested,but he has no computer.0 -
Shipping is the toughest part. It costs me approx $1400 to get a tractor trailer to bring a load of pianos from Ontario CA to Las Vegas, NV (about 230 miles)0
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Nevada Hudson wrote:Do they have an address and phone number? I have a friend that might be interested,but he has no computer.
Nevada...
Go to the eBay listing shown in first post and send a msg to G&M.
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Don't take this the wrong way folks, but how many Hudson owners are on fixed incomes? I think the other problem you have is that there are not enough members building cars. This may be because Hudson is not a well known name, the stepdowns are not as restorer friendly since they have a unibody and its difficult to do a frame-off restore, whatever the case, you have a lot of parts and not enough buyers. The problem as stated before is that you have a lot of costs and a slow return. You need someone who can afford to store and catalog these parts and wait around until someone needs something.
I think the biggest problem you have is not enough restorations. There has to be a need which seems to be slow at best. I like the HET club idea because maybe somehow they can sit on the parts until someone has a need. But as a business, I don't see the profit in it or you'll have to wait too long to make a profit or even get your investment back. And if you don't have the membership willing to put out the bucks for shipping, etc. forget it, you aren't going to make it.
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Over the years the number of cars being restored has increased and the quality of the restorations has gotten to an all time high. Full restorations versus a cosmetic wash wipe and drive of the 70s is now the norm. Acually there is a big interest in Hudsons... evidenced by a membership in the thousands. Most of the other marques do not have these numbers... but that aside... income has nothing to do with the viability of another persons business. Pinning down facts on why Heters will not pay the true cost is not easy... but it is pretty much the norm.
The HET CLUB Can not go into the parts business due to it's legal structure. Most of the why won't "The Club" questions can be chalked up to the incorporation rules under which the HET CLUB has been identified.
No argument... just experience and the legal situation of the HET CLUB.0 -
Heart_Of_Texas wrote:Over the years the number of cars being restored has increased and the quality of the restorations has gotten to an all time high. Full restorations versus a cosmetic wash wipe and drive of the 70s is now the norm. Acually there is a big interest in Hudsons... evidenced by a membership in the thousands. Most of the other marques do not have these numbers... but that aside... income has nothing to do with the viability of another persons business. Pinning down facts on why Heters will not pay the true cost is not easy... but it is pretty much the norm.
The HET CLUB Can not go into the parts business due to it's legal structure. Most of the why won't "The Club" questions can be chalked up to the incorporation rules under which the HET CLUB has been identified.
No argument... just experience and the legal situation of the HET CLUB.
Your earlier comments ring so true Ken. You can't run a business and have to wait years for your profit to arrive because you have to sit on a lot of inventory. And shipping shouldn't be such a problem, I paid it on an entire rear interior including jumpseats for my wife's Disco II, a fair amount of weight. It wasn't that much and I wanted the conversion, so was willing to pay.
I think you're going to have to find a person who is willing to do it as a hobby, and can afford to wait on any return on investment, if any. Or someone like bill a, who incorporates it into a restoration business.
Its nice for members to say you should save the inventory, etc., etc. when they're not the ones having to cart it around. Seems there are too many tightwads in this bunch.......so cough up some dough guys, so someone can make a living at this, or one day someone will have had enough and have it all scrapped!0 -
If they have been big Hudson parts dealers I would think you could find their contact info in the WTN. I personally have not heard of them but I am still relatively new in the club. Of course I am lucky and Bill A is only about an hour drive away from me. If he hasn't got it not much chance anyone else will either.0
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Interesting to hear that this stash includes the MacDonald inventory. When MacDonalds was closing down, they invited the Northwest chapter of HET to the store in Seattle, as a group, to just rummage around and buy whatever we wanted, for very reasonable prices, before they wholesaled the rest. I did get an aluminum head and a Twin H manifold, but there wasn't much of that "higher demand" stuff left. Lots of fairly obscure stuff, and a real challenge to inventory, I would think (not all pieces have part numbers on the piece, and would be hard to figure out the applications in a lot of cases, even if you could identify the part). A couple of observations: What several others have said about us being cheapskates, as a whole, is probably correct. In the olden days, guys were used to paying cheap prices for low-demand parts for their low-demand cars, and that is probably one reason they didn't get into restoring Packards or Cadillacs. Also, while there are a substantial number of restorations happening now, how many are restoring a '49 Super Six 4 door or other "common" model (which many of the parts in stashes are for)? I venture to say there is very little left in the various stashes around the country for Hollywoods, club coupes or convertibles. Seems like this could be a supplement for a repro parts business, and wouldn't be too tough after the initial inventory and computerization of the stock. But would probably be a tough go as a stand-alone project.0
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Very true the ckub has a lot of members who were picking up Hudsons when no one else wanted them....when you could drag a nice coupe out of a junkyard for $25 and drive it to a meet to hang out and money wasn't really the issue. Believe me I'd snap up the inventory and sit on it if only I had the money and space and I think a lot of others in the club are in the same boat...reality is this is no longer a "cheap" hobby. The average HETer owns more than one Hudson. Without a lot of resources you can only do so much to one car at a time. Ideally we'd have a club with 10000 members each with one car/restoration instead of 3500 members each owning an average of 4 cars. I think many older members also aren't as interested in crawling around underneath these things anymore...they want restored cars they can just drive so it's up to the younger and newer guys to take on restorations and also buy parts. I don't think realistically anyone is going to get super rich selling Hudson parts but if it's going to be run like a business parts sellers need some HARD STATISTICAL DATA about the cars and the owners so they can better sell and circulate parts. The HET club can help in that regard putting databases together for vendors. Mike I'd list all my needs to your proposed database for sure. First in foremost the club is supposed to be about helping Hudson owners find what parts and information they need to fix their cars and keep them on the road. Guys outside the club I've talked too have no idea how to get in contact with the network of vendors who can supply all the parts they need.0
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jsrail wrote:Don't take this the wrong way folks, but how many Hudson owners are on fixed incomes? I think the other problem you have is that there are not enough members building cars. This may be because Hudson is not a well known name, the stepdowns are not as restorer friendly since they have a unibody and its difficult to do a frame-off restore, whatever the case, you have a lot of parts and not enough buyers. The problem as stated before is that you have a lot of costs and a slow return. You need someone who can afford to store and catalog these parts and wait around until someone needs something.
I think the biggest problem you have is not enough restorations. There has to be a need which seems to be slow at best. I like the HET club idea because maybe somehow they can sit on the parts until someone has a need. But as a business, I don't see the profit in it or you'll have to wait too long to make a profit or even get your investment back. And if you don't have the membership willing to put out the bucks for shipping, etc. forget it, you aren't going to make it.
You need to get some folks interested in Huds that will put out the bucks.
Someone once pointed out to me how you make money on Hudson resto's - you don't!!! You restore Fords or Chevies and put the profits you make on those into the Hudson resto.:D
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Does anybody know exactly where in Idaho they live?0
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Weiser, Idaho- about 90 miles northwest of Boise, near the Oregon line where I-84 crosses over into Idaho0
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