'50 Commodore 8 Cheap on ebay

50C8DAN
50C8DAN Senior Contributor
edited November -1 in HUDSON
Well this would be a project but at least you get all the parts, plus Supermatic!



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1948-1949-1950-1951-Hudson-Commodore-8-Super-Matic-Driv_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6783QQihZ016QQitemZ260060598548QQrdZ1

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I wonder what the frame rails look like.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    gosh... me and hudsondad cut cars apart that were better than that...



    as far as the supermatic. I'm not sure that even having a complete set-up would make me want to bother with it. Actually I got a complete set-up, and opted for twin h over supermatic.
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    jsrail wrote:
    I wonder what the frame rails look like.

    From the rot I see on the outside probably worse than yours was!
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    50C8DAN wrote:
    Well this would be a project but at least you get all the parts, plus Supermatic!



    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1948-1949-1950-1951-Hudson-Commodore-8-Super-Matic-Driv_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6783QQihZ016QQitemZ260060598548QQrdZ1



    Has anyone driven a Hudson with the Supermatic? Just wondering how well it works.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    uhh... yeah...



    It probably didn't work that well when new. Seems every hudson I encountered with it, had the upper vacuum part removed and the larger vacuum line from the carb "crimped" (must have been the factory approved reapir)



    I bought the missing vacuum parts off eBay one night, and honestly, have yet to open the box. It will NEVER go on my car, even though it was originally on it, but it is nice to hav the items to turn it back to a correct vehicle, proper numbers matching engine and accessories, you know the drill.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Dave53-7C wrote:
    Has anyone driven a Hudson with the Supermatic? Just wondering how well it works.
    My first Hudson a 48 Commadore 6 had supermatic. I did not work well and I did not like it so I removed it. The car was only 7 years old at the time.
    Les
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    So, what was the problem with the Supermatic? In theory, it sounds interesting. I was wondering how closely it approximated the function of an automatic trans.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    As I rember the supermatic alowed you to shift without using the clutch. You still had to move the shift lever through the gears. It has been just over 50 years sence i had that one and i never had anything to do wiyh one again. It was very hard to get it adjusted right so as not to grind the gears. Some one correct me if i am not rembering right
    Les
  • 50C8DAN
    50C8DAN Senior Contributor
    Supermatic was a 1950 only option that combined Drivemaster w/OD. This operated the clutch and shifted from 2nd to 3rd to OD by lifting your foot off of the accelerator pedal. You did not move the shift lever. Vacumatic was the vacuum operated clutch only option and there you did operate the shift lever but not the clutch pedal.



    Talking to those that have used Drivemaster or Supermatic, if adjusted properly it worked well and did approximate a fluid drive automatic type transmission. However as with any mechanical type mechanism it needed to be properly adjusted and serviced. One of the key things is to make sure the two vacuum cylinders lubed, it not it will not work. I have discussed getting mine working again with George Schmidt and hope to get on it next summer now that everything else is working.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    When I last drove a Hudson with overdrive, I thought it was cool when you let off the accelerator and it shifted into OD. The Supermatic must have been a similar effect. Thanks to all for sharing info.
  • harry54
    harry54 Senior Contributor
    I never drove a stick with overdrive, but I hear it's the cat's pajama's.... I'm sure the supermatic is the dog's pajama's.....
  • 50C8DAN
    50C8DAN Senior Contributor
    If you read Langworth there is a section that quoted a road test of the 1950 Hudson w/ Supermatic and it showed that the car was faster using Supermatic than shifting manually. The review also liked the Supermatic setup. I will try to find the exact quote tonight.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I think that the early attempts at automatic transmissions were fascinating. Stick with overdrive is a real hoot to drive. If I remember correctly, you can start out in 2nd and lift your foor off the accelerator to shift to 3rd. When coming to a stop, you simply put in the clutch, stop, leave it in second and left out the clutch. Again, you lift off the gas to shift from 2nd to 3rd. I think there is a more accurate description in the shop manual.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I stand corrected. I guess what i had was a Drivemaster. Like i said it has been a long time. Thanks Dan
    Les
  • nick s
    nick s Senior Contributor
    les you probably had vacumatic which was just a vaccum clutch and was half of the drivemaster set-up. supermatic was drivemaster with overdrive (the supermatic name was added to the option in 50 drivemaster with overdrive was available in prior years)
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    nick s wrote:
    les you probably had vacumatic which was just a vaccum clutch and was half of the drivemaster set-up. supermatic was drivemaster with overdrive (the supermatic name was added to the option in 50 drivemaster with overdrive was available in prior years)
    Thanks Nick. Im sure you are right as i rember thats all it was.
    Les
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