look at this..42 hudson wagon.

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edited November -1 in HUDSON
hello, just found this at www.huffreport.com , look at jan 21 07. what pics and story, amazing, dermott.:) :):)
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  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    FRIT42.jpg

    Paul Simms' '42 (now in the hands of a subsequent owner)




    This is curious. I know of only two 1942 Hudson wagons. The first was owned by the late Paul Simms of Lakewood, N.J. during the time period of that auction you mention. (I got to know Paul in 1974 and he had already acquired it by that time.) The other (now owned by Eldon Hostetler) was still lying in pieces out in Nevada (or wherever it was) at that time. So...what is the one listed on the auction list that's shown on the website you've linked to? Could this be a third one? And if so, what became of it? (Possibly it was not in that great condition and was subsequently junked; note that the price for the '41 woody wagon is 4 or 5 times the price of the '42, which may indicate the relative conditions of the two vehicles.)



    Or, it is possible that Paul Simms' woodie was purchased at that auction, just shortly before I got to know him.
  • I wonder if that is the same car that was on E bay about a year ago for around $85K...If it is the same car it was listed as a 41 and Bill Albright actually restored that car..
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    Jon B wrote:
    FRIT42.jpg

    Paul Simms' '42 (now in the hands of a subsequent owner)

    Or, it is possible that Paul Simms' woodie was purchased at that auction, just shortly before I got to know him.

    I'd bet you hit the nail on the head there Jon ~ timeline is the same and there were only 2 known to be built?

    I wonder what a stepdown would look like dressed in wood! :D
  • 7XPacemaker
    7XPacemaker Senior Contributor
    Chuck Rogers from Pittsburgh also had one years ago. It was sold to Hedley Bennett from Canada. I am uncertain of the year.
  • bent metal
    bent metal Senior Contributor
    rambos_ride wrote:
    I'd bet you hit the nail on the head there Jon ~ timeline is the same and there were only 2 known to be built?



    I wonder what a stepdown would look like dressed in wood! :D



    There is 42' woodie in Southern California, unrestored.
  • mr. headly bennetts woodie wagon is magnificent, when i first got my coupe i advertised in old autos. a local ontario newspaper that is amazing in the cars and articals they print. 2x month at $40.00 a year. anyways i got a bunch of calls and the hudsons are out there inontario canada, well a guy pointed me to headly and he says call anytime (resonable) and i did and he walked me thru some stuff in the garadge on speaker phone. a great man and hudson guy from the fortys i think. there is a story, i have been thinking of doing a story on headly w/pics of. as he says ; come down and i will show you some junk". i do not know how he would take that, being a little rough. but honest and straight shooter. does wtn, sam, accept stories??. thanks dermott.:)
  • SamJ
    SamJ Senior Contributor
    The unrestored '42 Hudson Woodie Wagon in California belongs to Perry Spring. :cool:
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    and he got it out of a junkyard in Tucson
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    Dermott, Sam may have missed your question but yes, I think that indeed the WTN does accept stories!



    Hedley's wagon is a '39 112, and I knew the fellow (Fred Nielsen of N.J.) who originally bought it from someone who'd allowed it to deteriorate, back in the early 70's. Though he didn't restore it, Fred at least got it out of the elements. About the same time Fred also glommed onto a rare '37 Terraplane woodie, and THAT one he restored in the mid-70's. After he sold the '37 it was owned by a succession of non-H-E-T people and I lost track of it. However, it is now owned by a fellow in Ohio or Pennsylvania who (it is hoped!) will get it out and about, for all to see.
  • I remember posting a either 46 or 47 station wagon that was in Iowa City in 1967. As i remember it went to Decatur, Ill.Cant remember the fellows name, Bob Sombody.
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    think the guy in Ill. was one Bob Weber of Cisco, Ill. - if so, that's the one Bill A. restored.
  • Found on the internet:



    I wrote another story for the "Woodie Times" about my wife's grandfather's 1950 Ford Country Squire station wagon which we now have. Turns out Classmate Joel Einhorn of Woodbury CT is interested in woodies and wrote me a nice note: "Dear Andy, just a brief note to tell you how much I enjoyed your article in the Woodie Times. I have often wondered whether any other 58's belonged to any of the numerous old car clubs that I belong to. I have had '34, '38 and '41 Ford woodies. I currently have a '49 Chrysler Town & Country convertible and am restoring a '42 Hudson woodie (one of two known) along with (too many) old cars.
  • Everything you ever want to know about a 1942 WOODY Stationwagon



    http://www.woodiesusa.com/vehicles4sale/42Hudson/42Hudson.asp
  • If you can not afford the real thing.



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    The company website ( has more Hudson models) :



    www.crossway-models.co.uk/WESTERN.htm
  • Heart_Of_Texas wrote:
    Everything you ever want to know about a 1942 WOODY Stationwagon



    http://www.woodiesusa.com/vehicles4sale/42Hudson/42Hudson.asp



    In looking at the above link, I see the former Paul Simms / Jim Fritz car. The 42 woodie that my dad has, differs in that it uses passenger car type front and rear fenders, and the wood on the bottom of the doors extends out over the runningboards like the regular steel bodied cars of that year. The Hostettler car shares these similarities, but has much taller side windows. My Dad's car has approximately the same size and shape doors as a factory Hudson 4dr sedan. On the Hostettler car, the rear edge of the doors are probably two or three inches taller than the steel bodied production cars.



    Dany Spring
  • Another difference... Dad's car carries the spare tire on the inside of the car, in a "well" behind the third seat. I'm not sure where The spare is on Mr. Hostettler's car.



    Dany
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    Dany - I thought your dad's was a '41 which account for the running boards?

    Pete
  • great sites ken, thanks. and jon, i would love to see pics of the 37 woodie. thanks. dermott.:)
  • Aaron D. IL
    Aaron D. IL Senior Contributor
    rambos_ride wrote:
    I'd bet you hit the nail on the head there Jon ~ timeline is the same and there were only 2 known to be built?



    I wonder what a stepdown would look like dressed in wood! :D



    Hey Rambo, you wanna see what a Step-down woodie would've looked like there's pictures of concept drawings in either Langworth's book or Butler's book, of a step-down woodie, along with a step-down town car limo, the pickup (which did see a prtotype produced and one other drawing.

    There woodie's that were made before the war had their bodies done by a coachbuilder. Body was by Cantrell (Lydenhurst NJ. ?)
  • Aaron D. IL
    Aaron D. IL Senior Contributor
    The drawings are in Butler's book under the 1948 section. Has 2 different woody bodystyle drawings for step-downs
  • hudsonguy
    hudsonguy Senior Contributor
    springspeeddemon wrote:
    Another difference... Dad's car carries the spare tire on the inside of the car, in a "well" behind the third seat. I'm not sure where The spare is on Mr. Hostettler's car.



    Dany



    Dany,



    Eldon's spare is right inside the tailgate. I've got some pictures of his '42, that I took a couple of years ago at Iola, that I could post, but I never seem to be able to do this quickly....or successfully, for that matter.
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    Aaron D. IL wrote:
    Hey Rambo, you wanna see what a Step-down woodie would've looked like there's pictures of concept drawings in either Langworth's book or Butler's book, of a step-down woodie, along with a step-down town car limo, the pickup (which did see a prtotype produced and one other drawing.
    There woodie's that were made before the war had their bodies done by a coachbuilder. Body was by Cantrell (Lydenhurst NJ. ?)


    Cool - if there's a drawing it can be built...now I just need someone to commission (pay) me to build it :D
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    Here's a factory photo of the '37 Terraplane stationwagon. The restored one is essentially identical to this. The ex-Fred Nielsen wagon was used originally by a hotel in Broadalbin, NY to ferry patrons between the hotel and local railway station.
  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    I have often thought that a 54 Hornet four door would make a decent wagon by using a 54--56 Buick rear roof and tail gate section. By grafting the roof line similar to the way Ramblers were done in the late fifties.. I recall, the Ramblers were refered to as sedans with a back porch added on. The wood side panels would be the easy part.

    Davew
  • oldhudsons wrote:
    think the guy in Ill. was one Bob Weber of Cisco, Ill. - if so, that's the one Bill A. restored.



    I found the car in an alley in Iowa City surrounded by junk. If it is the same car , glad Bill got hold of it.
  • Jon B wrote:
    Here's a factory photo of the '37 Terraplane stationwagon. The restored one is essentially identical to this. The ex-Fred Nielsen wagon was used originally by a hotel in Broadalbin, NY to ferry patrons between the hotel and local railway station.





    Jon: did you see this picture of HUDSON HULK posted by hudsonkid? Appears to me to be a 37 T Woody.



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  • that pic makes me cry...... where is it though. lol. dermott.:)
  • TO ADD SOME FACTS TO THE WOODY STORY, MY 41 SUPER SIX WAS PURCHASED FROM bob weber of cisco ill. He purchased it from AGNESS MOOREHEAD, IN Zanesvill dOhio in 63, had it 20 years along with another just like it. dIL bought it in 83, finished it in 93 took it to the Sacramento National and showed it besides Jim Friltts green 42, allso showed it at Pebble Beach iln 93, sold it too cheaply after my stroke in 02. It was repainted the original NEWPORT TAN, A CHOCOLATE COLOR. AND WAS ADVERTISED ON EBAY LAST YEAR FOR 155,000, AS FAR AS Lli KNOW IT IS IN SAN DIEGO CAL LAST OWNER, CHUCK SWIMMER. wEBERS OTHER 41 WAS SOLD AT hERSHY AND WENT TO A BIG COLLECTOR IN oHIO, HAVE LOST TRACK OF IT, best BILL ALBRIGHT
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