'53 Rear Window Trim

ratlee2
ratlee2 Expert Adviser
edited November -1 in HUDSON
Does the 1/2" wide trim that gets set into the window gasket around the glass have to be installed before the rear window goes in, or can it be installed after the window is in place? glass is going into a '53 SuperWasp sedan. Second question is, did all models use this trim?





Thanks,

Rich

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  • Rich , Don't even try to put this on after the fact. It won't happen. You put the glass,rubber gasket AND chrome trim on BEFORE you install the window. Also, Do not put in a new headliner after the window is in. It has to be done before the window is installed. BTW use a fresh new gasket. The old one may possibly leak and it is a pain a best to install these windows. Don't make yourself do it twice. By the time your car was made all the stepdowns had rear stainless trim on the window surround. Good luck.
  • ratlee2
    ratlee2 Expert Adviser
    Thanks for the help. I have new kgap rubber for it as well. I plan to use 3m bedding and glazing compound between the rubber and the gasket and also the gasket and the window frame. I assume this would be the appropriate sealant when I rope it in?



    Rich
  • K-gap has a good rear seal that you can depend on. Using 3M sealant isn't a bad idea, but the mason's cord around the whole window is the trick. Figure about two-three hours with a helper. Also use soapy water to help with the install. Get putty knives to pull the rubber lip out and you should have it done Follow the Hudson book's procedure and it will work. Just be glad that you aren't doing a 50 2 piece with a divider bar. Now that's a real joy.
  • Hudzilla wrote:
    K-gap has a good rear seal that you can depend on. Using 3M sealant isn't a bad idea, but the mason's cord around the whole window is the trick. Figure about two-three hours with a helper. Also use soapy water to help with the install. Get putty knives to pull the rubber lip out and you should have it done Follow the Hudson book's procedure and it will work. Just be glad that you aren't doing a 50 2 piece with a divider bar. Now that's a real joy.



    I guess "Hudsonkid" will have a challenge on his '50 two piece. Why is this harder? Is it because of the center bar making it stiff in the middle top and bottom? Any suggestions Hudzilla, because I can guess who his "helper" would be!
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    ratlee2 wrote:
    Thanks for the help. I have new kgap rubber for it as well. I plan to use 3m bedding and glazing compound between the rubber and the gasket and also the gasket and the window frame. I assume this would be the appropriate sealant when I rope it in?

    Rich

    What is the 3m product # you are thinking of using?
  • hudsondad wrote:
    I guess "Hudsonkid" will have a challenge on his '50 two piece. Why is this harder? Is it because of the center bar making it stiff in the middle top and bottom? Any suggestions Hudzilla, because I can guess who his "helper" would be!
    Hudsondad, you nailed it when you mentioned the divider bar. It just takes longer to do because of the added extra sealing and the extra trim. With a one piece rear window it's one seal and you're done. No so with a divider bar. It's more time consuming. Just be patient. If Hudsonkid messes up the trim or bends up the divider bar, have no fear. I have two complete divider bar sets. There have been folks who take out the divider bar on their 50 and put in a 51 one piece rear window . It fits perfectly. Use that as a last resort. Anyhow figure a couple of hours on that job. And you really do need a helper.
  • ratlee2
    ratlee2 Expert Adviser
    Dan,

    I was palnning to use 3m Automotive Bedding and Glazing Compound" part #08509. I used it for my new windsields and have used with good suceess on glass in my '65 mustang.



    Hudzilla,

    Where would I find masons cord? Would this be available at a store like Lowes?



    Thanks,

    Rich
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    3M 8509 is the correct sealer for this type of application. I just wanted to make sure you were not going to be using the urethane type window seal meant for gluing non-gasketed windows in...you put this stuff on your windows it would never come off!
  • ratlee2 wrote:
    Dan,

    I was palnning to use 3m Automotive Bedding and Glazing Compound" part #08509. I used it for my new windsields and have used with good suceess on glass in my '65 mustang.



    Hudzilla,

    Where would I find masons cord? Would this be available at a store like Lowes?



    Thanks,

    Rich
    Rich, Yes that's exactly where you'll find it. It's usually yellow and it's very strong. It won't break too easily. You have to cut it. It's a bit of a trick to get the whole thing wrapped up and then install it, but once it's in the mason's cord will pull the inner lip out and set the gasket in place as you go around the window. Sort of like pulling the seal off a pack of cigarettes.
  • ratlee2
    ratlee2 Expert Adviser
    Hudzilla,

    Now I'm confused. The masons cord is not a sealant right, but rather the cord used to pull the gasket lip over the body flange? I have always used plastic coated clothes line to install windows.



    Rich
  • ratlee2
    ratlee2 Expert Adviser
    Duh... I did a quick google search and answered my question. Never heard it referrred to as masons cord before. Thanks for the help guys.





    Rich
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