Dash Prism, Light Viewer question

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edited November -1 in HUDSON
I purchased a "GUIDE" traffic light viewer off of Ebay for the '54. I searched previous posts about mounting location, and read that they were usually mounted to a pre-existing hole under the dash pad. I haven't found a pre- existing hole yet and didn't really want to drill my dash. If there is an existing hole, does anyone have a pic of the location? Thanks Tommy T.

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  • harry54
    harry54 Senior Contributor
    Don't Drill
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    give me your snail mail address and I will mail you template that shows where to drill. You will need to use offset drill, if windshield is in the car.
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    I don't know if I can scan it and keep size true. Is is probably better if I snail mail it to be sure measurment stays true. Is your address listed in roster. ?
  • I'm not sure that the '54's were available with sunvisor (no center post), so Hudson probably figured they wouldn't need an overhead traffic light viewer. Hence the absence of a hole in the dash. I have a '54 Hornet, however, and have also thought it would be nice to have a Guide prism since the winshield top is so low. Hope it works out....
  • Rudy, there was a 54 visor but it did not look anything like the 48-53 visors. You are right about the problem of the split windshield but there was a model visor that was designed with that in mind. It's a real tough part to come across. Don't think it was made by Karvisor for Hudson as the earlier ones were. Might be that dealers just ordered them as they needed them from the manufacturer. I guess the other hard to find visor is the one specially made to fit Hollywoods.
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    Although very rare, EARLY 1954 outside visor was available. It is listed in the 1954 accessory brochure along with traffic viewer. (Outside visor is not listed for 1954 in 1948 to 1954 master parts book, but traffic viewer is listed for 1948 to 1954.)



    It was the same Karvisor as 1952/53 Hornet/Commodore with special bracket on header in center. I have both visor and traffic viewer on our 1954 convertible.;)



    I do have copies or original template for anyone who sends me a SASE. My address is in roster.:)
  • Tommy There is a screw that holds the inside trim around the window ,find whch one is in the area that you want to mount it(usually left outside corner of windshield),take this screw out and use the hole in mounting bracket,

    422john
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    Tom,

    I snail mailed you copy of Hudson traffic light viewer installation instructions, along with a copy of 1954 Hudson approved comfort and convenience group of accessories that shows picture of Karvisor and viewer on a 1954 model. ;) Good luck.

    Dave S
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    Tom, if you purchased one of the aftermarket Taiwan reproductions like the one shown here, you can replace the stem that is in unit now with a mounting bolt with ball head from an old Guide rear view mirror. This will give you mounting like Hudson used.:)
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    dave s wrote:
    Tom, if you purchased one of the aftermarket Taiwan reproductions like the one shown here, you can replace the stem that is in unit now with a mounting bolt with ball head from an old Guide rear view mirror. This will give you mounting like Hudson used.:)


    Just and idea...a strong magnet with a hole in the center would probaly hold tight, what do you think?

    You could cover or paint the magnet and no drilling of holes - unless these little things are theives gold at car shows!

    Don't laugh too much it's later and I've been working for 13 hours straight!
  • I actually have it taped to a magnet right now so I could play around with different locations! I've never drilled a magnet before, but I hear it's not easy!
  • they make pretty strong glues these days which is what I think I would do. Glue the magnet to the base of the prism instead of drilling a hole in my nice dash.

    Just my 2 cents

    Jim
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    Jimalberta wrote:
    they make pretty strong glues these days which is what I think I would do. Glue the magnet to the base of the prism instead of drilling a hole in my nice dash.
    Just my 2 cents
    Jim

    I think that's what I was originally trying to articulate!

    Drilling a hole in a magnet or using a magnet with a hole in it I'd imagine wouldn't work as you might get some problems with polarization, possibly.

    But gluing a string magnet onto the base or to a mounting piece base would work.

    I remember my Grandma had a Smokey The Bear Single Cigarette ashtray on the dash of their stock 64 Impala SS and that thing would hardly budge!
  • Problem is solved. I found a "third hand" (tweezers on a small, heavy duty, cast iron base)....The threaded base was perfect and the threads were correct....I put 3 small "peel and stick" vecro tabs on my dash and on the base and it works perfect. It ain't stock, but NO HOLES!.....If I had a tail, it would be wagging! I'll post a couple of pics later. Thanks for all the great Ideas! Tommy T
  • dave s
    dave s Senior Contributor, Moderator
    Tommy T wrote:
    Problem is solved. I found a "third hand" (tweezers on a small, heavy duty, cast iron base)....The threaded base was perfect and the threads were correct....I put 3 small "peel and stick" vecro tabs on my dash and on the base and it works perfect. It ain't stock, but NO HOLES!.....If I had a tail, it would be wagging! I'll post a couple of pics later. Thanks for all the great Ideas! Tommy T





    Back in the 50/60's, that was called "Mickey Mousing it"! LOL :D
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