1952 Hornet Coupe for sale

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[Deleted User]
edited November -1 in HUDSON
For sale by a dealer.



( What an awfull place to put those backup lights IMO ) Was this where the factory would put them ? I guess I'm biased a bit though, because I don't find them attractive most anywhere on the '53. Even on the fenders, they stick out like afterthoughts, and usually point somewhere else rather than straight back, and level, as they should.



Guess I'm getting too picky in my old age.



http://www.significantcars.com/collections/royce/rc33/index.html



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  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Fully restored...I don't think so. Why no pictures of the engine? Probably because the picturs they did post don't tell a good tale. I agree, the back-up lights are ugly.
  • Walt-LA
    Walt-LA Senior Contributor
    Wow! So glad to find my car must also be fully restored... that'll save a few bucks! Walt-LA
  • Nevada Hudson
    Nevada Hudson Senior Contributor
    The wood graining on the sides around the doors and windows sure doesn't match the dash!
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I've spoken to the dealer a couple times on this car. Can't get him any lower than $22,500. It is a #3 car.



    I was thinking about buying it and putting my 7X engine in it rather than restoring the 52 Hornet Coupe I already have. However, at that price (which isn't too bad IMHO ) I can restore mine and know exactly what has been done to it. Plus it will be a three speed with overdrive.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    $22.5 k for this! I guess everyone is entitled to dream. What's up with the big gaps between the trunk lid and body? Even if it were partially open, it shouldn't look like that. To much hot air about Hudson history and not enough info about the car.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I guess not having a step down makes me not picky enough but I think it's a pretty nice car and I wouldn't mind having it parked in my garage. Sure, it's not perfect but I think perfect would cost a lot more than they're asking. I hope I can find that nice a car when I'm looking but I think I'll end up with a car needing a lot more work for the money I'll be able to spend. Of course it would be nice to see the engine but that car looks like it has a pretty good start on it.



    Harry
  • hornet53
    hornet53 Senior Contributor
    What color is the roof on that car?
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Way too much left undone/done incorrectly on a car which, per the seller, was "fully restored." I have a problem with people who can't tell the truth, especially after taking pictures of mismatched trim and skanky looking trunks.



    Roof color looks gold to me.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    add in hemmings says creme w/green top.dave,you might look at their website,they also have a convertible,49 i think,maroon,older restoration,no price
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    Man, you folks are really critical! Don't get me wrong, I have no intention of going out and buying this car, but lets be honest--this is a nice looking car unrealisticly overpriced. You all know that it would be welcomed at any Hudson meet. Got to tell ya, I would be uncomfortable with what you think of my step down---

    Brownie
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    For me, it's not a matter of arbitrarily being critical or judging someones car. Rather, it is about BS sellers and their outrageous behavior. People who lie, spin the facts or are generally unscrupulous in their dealings are an insult to the hobby and those in it. As I say when doing a car ad, just describe the car, show pictures and shut up. Case in point, showing pictures of poorly done interior trim and a ratty trunk don't equate to "Fully Restored" in my book. Misrepresentation would be more like it.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    nhp1127 wrote:
    I've spoken to the dealer a couple times on this car. Can't get him any lower than $22,500. It is a #3 car.



    I was thinking about buying it and putting my 7X engine in it rather than restoring the 52 Hornet Coupe I already have. However, at that price (which isn't too bad IMHO ) I can restore mine and know exactly what has been done to it. Plus it will be a three speed with overdrive.



    Where is the car located ?? I also wondered about the 52 Wasp coupe that is listed in the classics for sale on this web sit , Its been there for a long time - hes asking $18000 and is in New Jersy - suppose its rusty ??? looks like a nice car !!
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    In the interest of those who do not know fully restored from original poorly maintained... the definition one gives is personal. There is NO description of fully restored that can be used for a Hudson stepdown. While there are those in the hobby who will profess to be able to judge the authenticity of a Hudson, those observations are at best opinions. If we substitue Nash, Pontiac or Ford for Hudson the same arguments prevail... the real truth is in what the seller felt was justified prose. Those of us who can id a Hudson in a field of other independants will consider those descriptions differently from the person who sees new interior and paint creating a nice appearance to an otherwise non descript car.



    Eyes for the beholder are similar to the ears of the deaf.



    This car has had a decent renewal and it's appearance is pleasing. I hope it finds a good home.



    If it is needing a place to stay... I have a spot in my storage building.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Quantum vos narro minor vos narro.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Using the language of scholars does not cover the behavior of the author. If you are offended by my post use the language of the layman and state it clearly so all will know the large and the small of your statement. Petty as my response may be to raise to the bait of the baiter... insulting commentary has no place here.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Dave; I'm not sure what it is about this ad or car that upsets you so much. Is it the words fully restored or professionally restored? Of the fact there is still a ways to go to make it show room new? These people are car salesman, they will say the sky is pink if they think it will help sell a car. I think anyone checking on a car for this much money would eventually get a real look at the car before plunking down their hard earned money. Any real flaws will be found then or in my case I would send a professional to look at the car to find out if it is as advertised. There is enough there though to at least warrant a look.

    p. s. it's way to much work to translate latin, try chinese next time.

    Harry
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    (How much) (you) (to make known, say, speak, narrate, to set forth) (smaller, small, less, little, slighter) (you) (to make known, say, speak, narrate, to set forth)



    more literal, I think it is something like,



    "the more you speak, shows how little you know"



    not very nice... :(



    Ken makes a major contribution to the online hudson community, I think that while you might not like what he is saying, (or even says at other times)there is something there to be heard. I mean come on, even I might not see eye to eye with everyone on this forum all of the time... I might even be considered like a renegade or an outlaw here, to a small extent....



    1) for Dave 53-7C.... when it comes to critiquing hudsons offered for sale you are a bit harsh, I think you would be a great AACA judge.... :rolleyes:



    ab uno disce omnes



    2) Ken, take this one, as words of encouragement.... :)



    absit iniuria verbis





    And for all those people hating on hudsons that come up for sale, everyday, all the time.... :eek:



    condemnant quod non intellegunt



    Don't let someone's poor marketing skills or lack of proper sales skills make you lose focus on the real important things.... Seems so many people get so hung up on the little things... Understand all these people are trying to do, is make a few bucks, unfortunately, they don't know how it looks to others, us, the hudson community, the real experts....



    remember, at the end of the day, we all know.... :cool:



    caveat emptor



    okay, kids, that's our Latin 101 lesson for today....



    thanks for stopping by...



    and remember, just because I can sit here, and either quote latin phrases, or translate, does not make me any better than anyone else. My education, or internet skill, doesn't make me better than anyone else. We're all on this blue and green nitrogen rich, oxygenated sphere, together, let's just get a long...



    Let's all behave, now....



    All the best!

    Hudsonkid
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Ken, Unless you can read my thoughts, you should reserve directing insulting comments to me. For your reference, my last response was tongue in cheek, not directed at you or anyone in particular. I await your apology.



    Harry, I'm not the least bit upset. Just feeling free to make comments.



    HK, Why do you feel it necessary to launch into a tirade when neither you, or anyone else, know my thoughts? You're reading way too much into this.
  • Walt-LA
    Walt-LA Senior Contributor
    Quote: "In the interest of those who do not know fully restored from original poorly maintained... the definition one gives is personal. There is NO description of fully restored that can be used for a Hudson stepdown. While there are those in the hobby who will profess to be able to judge the authenticity of a Hudson, those observations are at best opinions. If we substitue Nash, Pontiac or Ford for Hudson the same arguments prevail... the real truth is in what the seller felt was justified prose. Those of us who can id a Hudson in a field of other independants will consider those descriptions differently from the person who sees new interior and paint creating a nice appearance to an otherwise non descript car."



    Ken, in this I believe you are wrong. The implication that there are no standards for restoration of Hudsons or any other marque, is simply not correct, as anyone who has entered an AACA competition knows. We have a number of members in the HET club, who have chosen to compete, in various competitions, and who have done well in meeting the standards of them. While it goes without saying that there are, and always will be differences of opinion, Most people familiar with the hobby have some idea as to what constitutes a restoration, full or otherwise. Some might hold that it takes a number 1, or perhaps a100 point car to be called fully restored, others, myself included, something else. But there are standards based on consensus, which general apply. Moreover, we all operate on the same sort of thing every day - in our business dealiings, in our personal lives/ ethics, etc. where the standard(s) may not be as precise as "the distance between two marks on a platinum-irridium bar," but is definiately there.



    The problem with applying a term such as "fully restored" too easily is that it misinforms and may mislead those who are not familiar with what it means to a knowledgeable person. When it is used deliberately, and I am in no way implying such to be the case in point, it should be considered fraud.



    To say that it is commonly done in sales, as was previously pointed out, does not make it right, the dictum "buyer beware", not withstanding..



    Walt-LA
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Dave53-7C wrote:
    $22.5 k for this! I guess everyone is entitled to dream. What's up with the big gaps between the trunk lid and body? Even if it were partially open, it shouldn't look like that. To much hot air about Hudson history and not enough info about the car.



    Don't know when the last time you have seen a decent 52 Hornet Coupe forsale... and at what price. If you find one in this condition for less, I 'll buy it from you. I'll be waiting......
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    nhp1127 wrote:
    Don't know when the last time you have seen a decent 52 Hornet Coupe forsale... and at what price. If you find one in this condition for less, I 'll buy it from you. I'll be waiting......





    Im the new guy here - , but was thinking the same thing . if there arent any big issues with the car
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    nhp1127 wrote:
    Don't know when the last time you have seen a decent 52 Hornet Coupe forsale... and at what price. If you find one in this condition for less, I 'll buy it from you. I'll be waiting......



    Let's relax and be friends. No need to get upset over someone elses car. Have you seen the chassis or know how, or if, the car runs?
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Back to the original comment about mounting the backup lights, all three of my coupes have them and I agree they look like crap whether on the trunk lid or fender. I think they detract from the smooth lines of 52-3 hudsons.



    Asking $30K for this car, I hope he gets it. $22K for a nice coupe is no longer a stretch for a weak #2, that looks nice and can be driven. I don't know the details of the car and before spending that kind of $$ I'm sure it deserves a personal inspection. Whats it cost to get one to this level today?
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I bought a pair of cowl lights at a swap meet a few years ago and mounted them below the horse collar of my 52 hornet. They look good and don't take anything away from the lines of the car and the best part is they blend in to the car even though they are from the 30's or 40's, but I doubt they produce much light. I had my wife look at the pictures of that car and pointed out the stain on the front seat, chrome aroung the steering wheel looked like it needed replacing, and the carpet looked worn, but the outside chrome and paint looked real good. I would hope to get 22.5k for my 52 that runs, has a new interior, but need the paint and chrome redone.:)
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    you know i have the same problem with my trunk on my 52. it dosnt line up flush like it should and i cant figure out how to fix it. any ideas? -john
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    THEGREENHORNET wrote:
    you know i have the same problem with my trunk on my 52. it dosnt line up flush like it should and i cant figure out how to fix it. any ideas? -john



    Yep, sell it for $22.5k and buy one with a straight truck.



    Harry
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I've seen several hudson coupes where the trunk does not line up correct. I think it may have a little to do with new weatherseal, or even just the way the design was. These things were leaded together, not an exact science, and a big trunklid.... just a thought...
  • bob ward
    bob ward Senior Contributor
    Ill fitting trunks doors and hoods on stepdowns, and indeed any other car of the era, were without a doubt genuine factory features.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Being accustomed to seeing old cars after they've been repaired or restored, I guess one can lose sight of what body panel fit was like when the cars were new. I remember panels of GM cars of the 70's having some really bad fit issues. But I would think that a well restored car would have had fit issues addressed.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Dave53-7C wrote:
    But I would think that a well restored car would have had fit issues addressed.

    I think a well restored car should retain the original fit issues. If body panel gaps are better than what you could get from the factory, then it becomes a modified car, not stock.

    Just my opinion, I've been wrong before...
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