New Owner

Roger Harmon
Roger Harmon Expert Adviser
edited November -1 in HUDSON
Hello all,



I'm the proud new owner of a 46 pick up, in West Point VA, near Richmond.



It runs great, but the engine has been replaced; the motor mounts are forward of the original holes. There is a casting date of '49 on the cylinder head. How can I tell what cid the engine is?



The clutch is stuck too. I've done some reading on clutch tonic solutions. I'm concerned about damaging the cork. What should I try?



The seat is missing, as well as the gas tank and tail gate. Do any of you have these parts?



I look forward to reading and conversing with you guys. Thanks.



R/ Roger

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  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Hey, Roger...Tommy here. I can't help you with the parts, but welcome from another fairly new member. I'm in Colonial Heights, Va., so I'm just a short drive from you. I have a 1954 Hornet that came from West Point originally. I hope you can get her going fairly easy...It would be nice to have another Hudson to park next to....I've never seen any around here! Have fun and good luck! Tommy
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Oh yeah....post a pic...I'd like to see!
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Try Glen Johnson in Brigham City Utah for the tail gate. Dave Sollen has a 46 Pickup that I believe he installed a Dodge Dakota seat. Dave is in western Pa and is a regular poster here. The clutch being stuck could be from a variety of things. The best bet is to soak the clutch. Loren Craymer aka Uncle Josh has been through this process with his pickups so I hope he sees this post an provide a summary of his first hand experiences for your support.



    Good to have a new HET owner here. Hope you are able to get you truck running with reasonable effort.



    Cheers from Texas
  • Uncle Josh
    Uncle Josh Senior Contributor
    Welcome and congrats from the owner of a 47 driver with the original 212 inch splasher motor and a 46 in restoration with a transplant of a 254 inch Hudson eight.



    You most likely have a 232 or 262 transplant or possibly a 308 inch which all would have a head length of 27 3/4. The 308 would have a double cast web running along both sides at the bottom of the block, whereas the 232 and 262 would have a single web.



    Bore and stroke of the common Hudson engines is as follows

    212 in 3 in bore and 5 in stroke 6 cyl

    232 in 3, 9/16 bore and 3, 7/8 stroke 6 cyl rated at 112 HP

    262 in 3, 9/16 bore and 4, 3/8 stroke 6 cyl rated at 123 HP

    308 in 3, 13/16 bore and 4, 1/2 stroke 6 cyl rated at 145 HP

    254 in 3 in bore and 4, 1/2 stroke 8 cyl rated at 128 HP



    I'm including a pic of the original 212 truck engine and a 262 which is the most likely transplant you have.



    Ken, (Heart of Texas) has a clutch freeing concoction on his site I believe, but basically a mixture of carbon tet and acetone. Carbon tet is available at True Value as 'Carbochlor' mixed with trichlorethane. That stuff should work by itself if you're lucky. Drain what's in the clutch and refil with solvent and rotate every day for a week, working the clutch pedal and it might come loose. Worse case you'll have to pull the tranny and take the clutch apart and carefully pry the disk off the flywheel and hope you don't ruin too many corks. Keep us updated.
  • mars55
    mars55 Senior Contributor
    Roger Harmon wrote:
    It runs great, but the engine has been replaced; the motor mounts are forward of the original holes. There is a casting date of '49 on the cylinder head. How can I tell what cid the engine is?



    The clutch is stuck too. I've done some reading on clutch tonic solutions. I'm concerned about damaging the cork. What should I try?





    To ID the engine, there should be a number running vertical in front of the manifolds, this is engine number, what is it?



    Bookmark Ken Cates' informative page on StepDown Hudsons at http://members.aol.com/stepdown53/STEPDOWNPG.html . Click the CLUTCH link to the left and look for Ken's recipe for a solvent which you can pour into the clutch (after draining the old clutch oil). Rotate the clutch a bit, every day, and let the stuff 'cook' for a few days, constantly pressing the clutch to see if you can work it loose. Meanwhile, buy some new Hudsonite so that when everything frees up, you'll have something to refill the clutch with.
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    Welcome to the madhouse, Roger! If you've not joined the Hudson-Essex-Terraplane Club yet, I heartily suggest you part with $25 and do so immediately, it will make your life much easier in terms of finding parts and technical help!



    In fact, we have a chapter of the Club that at present encompasses Northern Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, DC and part of West Virginia. We have a number of activities during the year, and we are the current sponsor for the large "Doc's Apple Blossom Meet" in Front Royal, Va. in May, which you should make every effort to attend. I'd love to e-mail you the latest issue of our newsletter, which you can use as a reference if you'd ever like to contact us -- just send me your e-mail address (or snail mail address if you want a paper copy). Whether or not you join us, we'd love to have you come to one of our meets.



    By the way, one of our members lives in West Point and if you'll drop me an e-mail I'll give you his contact information. I believe his only Hudson is a Jet, which has a different engine than your truck, but at least he would be someone you could talk to...and he may know of other Hudson owners in the area.



    ---Jon B.

    Xdetailed@verizon.net (delete the X before sending!)
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Hey Roger



    I live in Reedville VA. i'm guessing thats about 60 miles from West Point. My brother and I drove our dad's 54 Hornet over to the Wings and Wheels show in Topping recently which is about 30 miles from here in your direction.



    Good luck with your truck and I hope we cross paths some time
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Hello Roger and welcome to the fold. This is a great group with lots of members having expertise is all things Hudson. I have a 55 Hornet, aka Hash, because it was made in the years that Hudson and Nash formed American Motors. While not considered a true Hudson it still gets a lot of attention when I drive it around town. No matter where I go someone will walk up and start talking Hudson memories with me. The funny thing is when I was a teenager I wouldn't have been caught dead in a Hudson, now I appreciate everything about the car. The other thing I haven't had a car I could really work on for a long time, now I have something I get to work on all the time, at least if I want to drive it regularly.



    Harry
  • LanceB
    LanceB Senior Contributor
    Welcome to the group Tommy. My '46 pickup has a 308 transplanted in it, but not the Twin H set up that you have in your pic. As for the seat I have a Ford Ranger seat in it. Have fun with the project and keep us informed on your progress.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Roger,i'm Going To Try This Again.i Have Had This Problem A Couple Of Times In My 54 Super Wasp.it Sets A Lot Until I Get The Floor Board Back In It.if I Start In In Neutral Then Put It In Gear,the Clutch Is Ok.if Your Clutch Fluid Is Low,i Might Have Some Hudsonite You Could Borrow,i'm In Charlottesville.my Brother Is The One In Reedville.keep Us Informed.
  • bull_islander
    bull_islander Expert Adviser
    West Point used to be a mecca of sorts in Hudson activity with the Jacks family. An auction about a dozen years ago scattered most of his stuff across the East. One member of the family chose to keep a blue '54 Hornet, but I haven't seen or spoken to him in years. I've wondered if he still has that car... And I believe that another brother was restoring a Jet more recently...I remember seeing that car getting worked on in Topping maybe 5 years ago.
    Not much help with your truck, but there ARE Hudson folk near you. Certainly worth a look in your phone book and the few minutes for a phone call.
    That truck sounds like one that was on ebay a little over a month ago...the seller was in Virginia. Heed the previous advise. Join the HET club.
  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    Welcome to the mad house.. First thing you need to do on the clutch...is to cut a board to length that will go between the steering wheel and clutch pedal to hold the clutch pedal down. Just leave it that way for a few days while you use all the "snake oil" cures to loosen it up. Chances are you will be able top resurect it without major work. Good Luck, Dave W.(FL)
  • Roger Harmon
    Roger Harmon Expert Adviser
    Free at last, free at last my clutch is free at last!



    Now, do I use F-type, Dexron or synthetic ATF until Santa brings me some Hudsonite?



    R/ Roger
  • Hudsy Wudsy
    Hudsy Wudsy Senior Contributor
    Tommy T wrote:
    Oh yeah....post a pic...I'd like to see!



    Tommy, is that a vaccuum reserve tank mounted on the right rear inner fender?
  • bellbigdawg
    bellbigdawg Expert Adviser
    got a original 1946 hudson pickup seat frame and springs, a little rust, sandblast and reupholster and your set-- $50.00 plus shipping
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Yep, that's a vacuum tank.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I'm near Bon Air, just outside of Richmond. I have a mostly original '37 Terraplane snoozing in my garage.
  • LanceB
    LanceB Senior Contributor
    Here is a pic of the 308 in my '46 pick up
  • Ol racer
    Ol racer Senior Contributor
    Hi ,

    I put a Chevy S10 (s15) Seat and belt assy in my Truck. Practically bolted in. I installed a Camaro gas tank changing the fill pipe.
  • Roger Harmon
    Roger Harmon Expert Adviser
    Ol racer,



    What year or generation was your donor Camero?



    R/ Roger
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