Seatbelts in 4dr. Hornet

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I am getting ready to install seatbelts in my 52 sedan (front seat) and I am looking for some advice and/ or pictures on the best installation. I have installed seatbelts before, but never with the seat framework (pan) like in a Hudson. I used the search feature and found a similar question (posted by Dan) but didn't see an answer.



Any help would be appreciated.:confused:



Terry

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  • Unknown
    Unknown
    52 kahuna wrote:
    I am getting ready to install seatbelts in my 52 sedan (front seat) and I am looking for some advice and/ or pictures on the best installation. I have installed seatbelts before, but never with the seat framework (pan) like in a Hudson. I used the search feature and found a similar question (posted by Dan) but didn't see an answer.

    Any help would be appreciated.:confused:

    Terry

    I have the three point seatbelt installation started in my 52 sedan. If no one can post pictures as to what they have done, I will post pictures by the beginning of next week as to what I have completed.

    You ask about the "pan", are your referring to the raised platform the seat tracks bolt to or the unibody's floor pan? I plan on bolting to the floor pan. Most good shoulder or lap belts should have a reinforcing plate to use with the bolts and nuts.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I agree, make sure that the belts are mounted on something that is reinforced. If you have to mount to the floor pan use 1/4 in piece of steel plate. weld or use several Large bolts ( 3/8 or bigger) to mount it to the floor, don't just bolt straight to the floor pan. Not Good!!

    I inspect all of the saftey equipment in all of the race cars that race at our Speedway. ( Salem Speedway, Salem, IN)



    Just thougth I give some advice, Thanks, Barry Smedley
  • 50C8DAN
    50C8DAN Senior Contributor
    I finally just went with lap belts for my C8. Here is the place I got my belts from:



    http://www.seatbeltpros.com/
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    50C8DAN wrote:
    I finally just went with lap belts for my C8. Here is the place I got my belts from:



    http://www.seatbeltpros.com/



    Thanks for the info.



    I am going to bolt them to the floor of the car, with re-inforcing, but I was wondering where and how big did you make the cuts in the seat pan?



    Thanks, Terry
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I would go maybe 3 to 4 inch square then overlap your plate a 1/2 to 1 inch if you can. Try (if you have room) to mount the belts as close as you can to the back of the front seat, if you had bucket seats which I know you probably don't you would want each belt parallel to each hip. I know this sounds like a lot of trouble, but if you are going to put them in might as well do it right.



    Good luck, Barry Smedley
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    Julianos is a company I think others have used before here's a link to their "How to" page that should offer some insights into installing 3pt belts system.

    http://www.julianos.com/how2.html
  • Aaron D. IL
    Aaron D. IL Senior Contributor
    I've seen a guy locally who welded a shoulder belt to the door pilar for the front seat. He said he welded the contact point to a wire drilled a hole in the pilar and pulled it through and made the weld....then ground it flush for the body work. I just used lap belts all around in mine.
  • bartibog1
    bartibog1 Expert Adviser
    planning on adding seatbelts to my super wasp. does anyone have this done? what type did you use? any pictures? any help or ideas would be apprecited. are there any from junk yards that make a good choice?

    thanks steve
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    I guess I might be a bit lazy because when I installed the lap belts to my 52 sedan I drilled the belt holes from the inside of the car through the pan and then welded a four inch strip of 1/4 inch steel across the bottom of the pan (under the car) and ran the bolts through the steel brace. I ran some calucalations and decided this equaled a five to one safety factor that would restrain a 250 lb person in a head on accident with plenty of strength to spare.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Over at my site click on the link below. In our downloads section we have a complete guide to installing seatbelts in a Hudson with pictures. Provided by our resident fabrication wizard Ray Barker. Come on over you will need to signup to access the downloads.
  • Uncle Josh
    Uncle Josh Senior Contributor
    I threaded the belts thru the cushions and thru the floor behind the pan at the rearmost adjustment.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    bartibog1 wrote:
    planning on adding seatbelts to my super wasp. does anyone have this done? what type did you use? any pictures? any help or ideas would be apprecited. are there any from junk yards that make a good choice?

    thanks steve



    When it comes to your safety and that of your passangers, do you really want to use seat belts, of dubious condition, from a junk yard? For safety's sake, please buy new.
  • Sarah Young
    Sarah Young Senior Contributor
    I was just looking on SeatBeltsPlus.com and am trying to figure out what lengths to buy. 60 inches seems ample for the back seat of my Jet, but I'm wondering what length would work best for the front seats? Would I need to go up to 74 inches? I imagine 90 inches would be way too long.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    The seatbelts I installed on my '50 Pacemaker Deluxe(!) last year were purchased from Kantor. They have a nice selection of different colors to match your upholstry. The belt sets come with large heavy three to four inch diameter washers that you bolt under the floor pans as I did. I simply ran the belts through the back of the front bench seat and lined them up with the steering wheel. Turned out pretty good and was comfortable using them enroute to and from Pontiac a few weeks ago.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I have tried to register , but the site tells me that it is incorect or invalid. Can you tell me what I am doing wrong ?
  • onerare39
    onerare39 Expert Adviser, Member
    Sarah Young wrote:
    I was just looking on SeatBeltsPlus.com and am trying to figure out what lengths to buy. 60 inches seems ample for the back seat of my Jet, but I'm wondering what length would work best for the front seats? Would I need to go up to 74 inches? I imagine 90 inches would be way too long.





    Sarah,

    You will probably need to take some measurements to determine how long the fixed side of the belt needs to be. Measure from where the attachment point will be on the floor and up through the seat (while you are sitting in the seat) to see where the end of the fixed side will be. You will want to take measurements with the seat all the way forward and all the way back. Use a cloth tape measure and have someone hold the end of the tape where the attachment point will be. If the fixed end is too long it will go all the way across your lap and into the latch and not be able to be tightened, likewise if the fixed end is too short it may not be long enough to make it from the attachment point up through the seat.



    Julianos website shows the different fixed side lengths available http://www.julianos.com/lap_belts.html



    John
  • Sarah Young
    Sarah Young Senior Contributor
    Could have sworn I was a member of that site, but it may have expired since it's been a while since logging in. Will have to check the downloads out as soon as I get re-approved.



    Thanks for all the input!
  • Sarah Young
    Sarah Young Senior Contributor
    Sarah Young wrote:
    Could have sworn I was a member of that site...



    I must have been thinking about HudsonCollector.com. So many websites, so little time.



    The HudsonMotorCar.org gets a good review from me! :) I joined easily and was able to get the seatbelt info, which I found very thorough. Now to check out what else I've been missing out on.
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