Chinese like symbols at the bottom of the vin plate
Hey! Does anyone know what those symbols at the bottom of the vin plate on my 28 Hudson are for? They appear to be chinese writing, but when I tried to compare them ,only parts matched up and I couldn't find some of the others. It's very puzzling. Anyone? Anybody? Big Mystery, Phil
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phil walsh wrote:Hey! Does anyone know what those symbols at the bottom of the vin plate on my 28 Hudson are for? They appear to be chinese writing, but when I tried to compare them ,only parts matched up and I couldn't find some of the others. It's very puzzling. Anyone? Anybody? Big Mystery, Phil
I also wondered the same about my 29 Hudson vin plate. Well ??????
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I saw that on my friends 30 and if I remember rightly its all the places Hudson patented its cars components. During the British governing of Hong Kong Hudsons were shipped into China from Hudson England so they patented their cars technology there.0
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Both your cars were built in the Hudson Shanghi plant in China which was operated between 1926 and 1936. The plant was eventually destroyed when the Japanese attacked China in 1939.
The chinese characters translate to say "there is no lead used in the paint of this car and it is OK for your kids to chew on the fenders".0 -
Actually I believe it is Japanese. Hudson sold cars to Japan prior to WWII. If you look in John Conte's book, i believe he has a picture of a twin axel 28 or 29 Hudson that was made for the Japanese Army. I am hoping I stumble on that car someday. Is there anyone in the forum that lives in Japan?
Aaron Cooper
1929 Hudson Town Sedan
1946 Hudson Pickup0 -
will the real meaning please stand up0
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It seems like several of us at Auburn national discussed this and and the decision was they were Japanese.0
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I was talking to a guy down under that makes repro ID plates and if I could get 10 plus on order he would make copys of them for $30-00 Nz plus freight, if there was enough interest and they were all the same plus he said that he had already some different Hudson and Essex 1s
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Ok, now the big question. Is there anyone who can translate the plate or know a Japanese speaking friend that can read and translate the plate? 0
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akcoop wrote:Ok, now the big question. Is there anyone who can translate the plate or know a Japanese speaking friend that can read and translate the plate?
If anyone wants to email me a photo or scan of the plate in question, I'll ask my Japanese neighbours. HETDavid@websters.co.nz (drop the HET etc)0 -
OK! Guys, I mentioned that I couldn't find any direct matches with any Known Oriental languages. I went online, found websites that have oriental language alphabets, and miticulesly scoured each one for matches. My son who is into martial arts even showed me how to check older versions of alphabets with no avail. Yes, Mandarin, Japanese, Chinese, etc. THATS why I finally asked for some help online. WHY??? aren't there any records of a printed VIN plate with the information? What company did the printing for Hudson? Did this stuff just get thrown away? Well, again, I'm reaching out to anyone interested to help fill in a bit of history for Hudsons. Thanks, Phil0
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For those of you desiring to rise to Phil's challenge, here is are the oriental characters:
It looks to me like several languages.0 -
akcoop wrote:For those of you desiring to rise to Phil's challenge, here is are the oriental characters:
It looks to me like several languages.
I think somebody in the production department, where they made up these plates, decided to play a practical joke and just made one of these things up and they got stamped (printed or however they did it) and they wound up on production models.
Somewhere there was somebody saying "Man people 50 and more years down the line gonna be totally confused by this. hehehehe". LOL ROF
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
HudsonTech
Memphis, TN0 -
Phil, have sent you a PM.0
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akcoop wrote:For those of you desiring to rise to Phil's challenge, here is are the oriental characters:
It looks to me like several languages.
This may help, the first 4 symbols are Japanese referring to Japan, empire and country. This is the old Japanese language according to my wife, she is Chinese. Richie.0 -
akcoop wrote:Actually I believe it is Japanese. Hudson sold cars to Japan prior to WWII. If you look in John Conte's book, i believe he has a picture of a twin axel 28 or 29 Hudson that was made for the Japanese Army. I am hoping I stumble on that car someday. Is there anyone in the forum that lives in Japan?
Aaron Cooper
1929 Hudson Town Sedan
1946 Hudson Pickup
Kinda doubt you'd stumble onto that car Aaron, as cool as that would be it was probably straffed to pieces by a flying Tigers P-40 Warhawk. Or maybe by one of the other aircraft Hudson built pieces of. ...and if it wasn't, a damp jungle would've rotted it to nothing by now is my guess. But it would be a fun expedition to try and find it ..... It's a puzzle0 -
I like the Martian, the 12th symbol over.0
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You know I have been looking at that same symbol and thinking the same thing, but who was talking about or drawing martians in 1928. Not until Orson wells and his famous War of the Worlds broadcast. But I got a chuckle when you mentioned. It looks like a martian! Japanese symbol????? Phil0
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I sent the image over to my friend in Japan and here are his comments:
Some of the characters are Japanese and some others are deformed shapes
of Japanese characters, but there are others which are not Japanese at
all. These series of characters do not make any sense, except that
they might suggest the date and also Japan (characters similar to
"Nichi" and "Hon" = Nippon). I think some westerner used them for just
decoration purpose.
Saburo0 -
Thanks Dan. I guess thats probably the best answer were going to find for now. Unless we can somehow find the actual documentation from Hudson, the info may never surface as to why the symbols are there. Thanks to all who have tried to uncover this mystery.It sure will be something if It's uncovered completly someday, Phil:):):):)0
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I have a VIN plate from an older Essex and some of the characters are a little different, more serifs and more curvature. My wife is also Chinese, she could not read the beginning portion, but believed that the latter portion relates to a date.0
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