door rubbers for the 55

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edited November -1 in HUDSON
Who makes door rubbers for the 55 Hornet sedan? Maybe 21 Century Hudson? Must be just about the same as the 54.



Harry

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  • 464Saloon
    464Saloon Senior Contributor
    If you are talking about the weatherstrip the 54 and 55 are two totally different animals. K-Gap might have it as they are the only ones I really know reproducing that kind of stuff for Hudsons. 21st Century specializes in engines.
  • Walt-LA
    Walt-LA Senior Contributor
    Might try the Nash/AMC folks. As I understand it, the '55 Hudson was based on an earlier Nash body- '53 comes to mind. Walt-LA
  • What is this bias against the AMC Hornets? The cars were still made with Hudson engines and trans. While it's true there weren't as many made as the original Hornets, they are still Hudson Hornets. Someone must see the need that those of us who got in on the end of the line are still needing support. Maybe K-GAP will have my door seals but I don't think they recognize the Hash models as worthy.



    Harry
  • Harry, 55 to 57 Hudson and Nash bodies were identical. They differ from the 52 to 4 bodies due to the change ,in 55, to the wrap around windshield. Try Bob Walker in Anaheim, if he can't supply it he probably knows who does. I don't have his number but I think Bill A. does.
  • Kgap sell the door, windshield, back glass and trunk rubber for the 55's to 57's.



    Dany

    KGAP
  • springspeeddemon wrote:
    Kgap sell the door, windshield, back glass and trunk rubber for Hudson and Nash 55 to 57.



    Dany

    KGAP



    Ah, it's good to see the Hash owners are the redheaded step children in the Hudson world. I am on my way to your webpage.



    Harry
  • Steve E. wrote:
    Harry, 55 to 57 Hudson and Nash bodies were identical. They differ from the 52 to 4 bodies due to the change ,in 55, to the wrap around windshield. Try Bob Walker in Anaheim, if he can't supply it he probably knows who does. I don't have his number but I think Bill A. does.



    Steve; thank you.I will have my car down at Bill A's for a tune up soon, I just want to stop the leaks first. What is the chance of gettin my radio working while the car is at Bill's?



    Harry
  • Nevada Hudson
    Nevada Hudson Senior Contributor
    One rubber part you may need is the seal between the door and the cowl. This prevents water from dripping on the floor. Thats one reason lots of these cars have rusty floors. Bought one from K-Gap years ago, and works like a charm !
  • Nevada Hudson wrote:
    One rubber part you may need is the seal between the door and the cowl. This prevents water from dripping on the floor. Thats one reason lots of these cars have rusty floors. Bought one from K-Gap years ago, and works like a charm !



    That was what I ordered, the dog leg piece that does the door to cowl molding. That is the piece that is rotted. I hope I ordered a pair as I need both sides and off all the molding pieces it is the most expensive. What kind of adhesive did you use to put it on the door?



    Harry
  • 464Saloon
    464Saloon Senior Contributor
    Harry Hill wrote:
    What is this bias against the AMC Hornets? The cars were still made with Hudson engines and trans. While it's true there weren't as many made as the original Hornets, they are still Hudson Hornets. Someone must see the need that those of us who got in on the end of the line are still needing support. Maybe K-GAP will have my door seals but I don't think they recognize the Hash models as worthy.

    Harry


    Just out of curiosity,where did this statement come from? Neither my post or Walt's said anything bias about the 55-57's. All we said is that they are totally different than the stepdowns and parts like door weatherstrip is not the same. In fact a 54 Hornet like I have is quite a bit different in a lot of ways than the 51-53. I mentioned K-Gap and sure enough they got them. We were just trying to help and we did. If you know Bill A that well, I am sure he would have mentioned K-Gap too.
  • Harry Hill wrote:
    That was what I ordered, the dog leg piece that does the door to cowl molding. That is the piece that is rotted. I hope I ordered a pair as I need both sides and off all the molding pieces it is the most expensive. What kind of adhesive did you use to put it on the door?

    Harry

    This stuff works well.
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  • Rob, don't take it personal. It seems like every time I ask about something for a Hash I get the we don't do Hash stuff, only the real step-downs. I appreciated the answers I got and K-GAP had what I needed but it does start to get discouraging to hear I'm not really driving a Hornet because it was made during the AMC years.



    Harry
  • 464Saloon
    464Saloon Senior Contributor
    Harry Hill wrote:
    Rob, don't take it personal. It seems like every time I ask about something for a Hash I get the we don't do Hash stuff, only the real step-downs. I appreciated the answers I got and K-GAP had what I needed but it does start to get discouraging to hear I'm not really driving a Hornet because it was made during the AMC years.

    Harry

    Harry,

    I do understand what you are saying, but what got me was your defensive response when only Walt and I responded and we were positive and helpful. Maybe you ran into an attitude toward your Hash somewhere else and you jumped the gun on us. Personally I like the stepdowns best of all Hudsons, but I still have an interest and will help toward any of the other models. I even have a soft spot for the Jet. Royer got me into those.
  • Rob;



    I didn't mean to look like I didn't appreciate your's and Walts responses. I appreciate all the help I get on this forum. There are great people on this site who are always helpful. Bill A is always helpful and goes out of his way to find parts I need and there are others who are as helpful. With some though there seems to be an attitude that the 55-57 aren't real Hudsons, almost like we need to be over on the Nash site. I like the Nashes but my nameplate on my car does say Hudson Hornet. My personal choice for a Hudson will be a 49 but until then I'll drive my 55 Hornet and try to get it into better shape than when I got it. If nothing else I'm getting a ton of experience working on my Twin H 308.



    Harry
  • Nevada Hudson
    Nevada Hudson Senior Contributor
    royer wrote:
    This stuff works well.

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    Thats the right stuff to use !

    That rubber dog leg is the best investment for your car ! Saves the carpet too!
  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    Nevada Hudson wrote:
    Thats the right stuff to use !

    That rubber dog leg is the best investment for your car ! Saves the carpet too!



    Make sure you clean that new rubber very well before using the adhesive. Most new stuff has some sort of silicone mold release on it and the glue sometimes doesn't stick. Lacquer thinner works for me.
  • Thanks guys, it drives me nuts to find my carpet wet every time it rains. This is the wettest winter we've had in California for about 5 years and I think most of what has been here has been filtered by my carpet. It's no wonder the floors are always rusted out on Hudsons.



    Dave, I wouldn't have done any extra cleaning of the rubber without that warning so thanks on that. Those dog legs should cut down on some wind noise also. What is the best way to get the old rubber off, I'm thinking sharp knife or scraper.



    Harry
  • Nevada Hudson
    Nevada Hudson Senior Contributor
    For the wind noise , new vent rubber helps, but I don't think anyone manufactures them. There might be some hidden screws holding on the old rubber on the dogleg.
  • drivergo2
    drivergo2 Expert Adviser
    Harry Iknow what ya mean , You got a car design for two years and nothing after that. Makes it hard to get parts and advice . The old door to door salesman , how many NOs can you stand, Stay in there I have a 53 . But one of these days a 55 in the shop Good luck John drivergo2:)
  • Which vent are you referring to?



    Harry
  • PAULARGETYPE
    PAULARGETYPE Senior Contributor
    HARRY YOU ARE ONE A FEW WHO SEE THINGS THE WAY I DO



    IT SAYS H U D S O N ON THE GRILL

    IT'S A HUDSON

    I'VE HAD MY 57 FOR 40 YEARS AND HAVE HEARD IT ALL MANY TIMES

    WELL YOU STEP/down OWNERS OUT THERE I OWN BOTH A STEP/down AND A 57 HUDSON MY MONEY IS ON THE 57 ANY DAY MPG 18 WITH MY FOOT IN THE CARB. RUNNING 80 JUST TRY AND KEEP UP BOYS LOL
  • Paul;

    I like this old Hash, when it's running right it gets with the program. I haven't driven a stepdown yet so I don't know the difference in handling. Mine will handle a lot better when I get the front end rebuilt and the new shocks put on. On the other hand I want a 49 Commodore with a Twin-H 308 and a three speed with overdrive.I will settle for any 49 and put the engine and drive train of my choice in it. I'm a 49 vintage and I like the looks of the car.



    Harry
  • For what it's worth Harry, who cares about what others think or say as long as you are happy with the car and enjoy it. When it comes to your car, the only opinion that matters is yours. If we took everyones opinion on cars to heart, we'd all be walking.
  • Dave, I agree, my problem is when I write a company and ask them if they have a part and I'm told, "no, we only deal in stepdown parts" or "No, we don't deal with Nash, AMC," or whatever Hash's are called by the purist. When it would be just as simple to say "no, we don't have that part" . See what I mean?



    Harry
  • I understand what you're saying Harry, it can be frustrating if you allow it to be. Whenever that happended to me, I just turned it around and became even more intent on finding what I was looking for. That's how lots of old car parts return to the market. Someone gets put-off and refuses to take no for an answer. In turn, they search until they find a solution. Although others may refer to your car in other terms, the make is what is printed on the title, HUDSON. Since I've never owned or set foot in a 55-57 Hudson, I can't comment on personal experiences. Although I'm not a fan of the 55-57 models, I will admit they are interesting in their own rights. Keep sluggin' away there Harry.
  • VicTor Z
    VicTor Z Senior Contributor
    Hello Harry , Paul, Nevada and any of you '55-'57 hash Owners. If you have any samples of the weather stripping and channeling. Please send them to me and I will see if I can match them with my samples. VAWC, P.O. Box 1908, La Mirada Ca. 90637. The '55 I sold to Ed. M., I didn't think of getting samples. VicTor,
  • 464Saloon
    464Saloon Senior Contributor
    Harry,

    I can relate to you on two fronts. First when I was employed at Isuzu in 2004 they stopped producing their own made SUV's. From 2004 to date they have been just rebadged GM products. You could see history repeating itself just like Hudson. Sales continued to drop off as people knew it was just a GM and not a true Isuzu, though it said Isuzu on it. Isuzu last week just announced they were dropping SUV all together due to poor sales and lack of cooperation with GM.

    Second, I have a 73 Olds Cutlass Salon which was my first car. I am in the process of restoring it and I am in the exact same boat as you on your Hash. There is tons of aftermarket support for 64-72 GM A-Bodies like my 68 Olds 442. There is even support for the boxy 78-85 cars,but the 73-77 are forgotten years. They are the best looking and best built of all of them,but they have that early 70's American cars stink thing stuck to them, so support is weak. They are catching on a little now as the other years are getting pricey and rare,but you have to keep fighting this. I get laughs all the time when I say its a 73. Look at it this way, you have something no one else has and that makes you unique.
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