Pertronix

drivergo2
drivergo2 Expert Adviser
edited November -1 in HUDSON
Is this a good system to go to Is it cost effective .Its going in a 53 308 gone thru but not totaly rebuilt.Its a twin H thanks John drivergo2
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  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    I have one in my 262 and love it..12 volt version..
  • drivergo2
    drivergo2 Expert Adviser
    This would be 6 volt is their a big difference in this application. I see the have one ,Has any one out there used one? Thanks John
  • I have the 6V in my 51 Hornet part number 1362P6 I also have there coil and plug wires all works beautifully.
  • 51hornetA wrote:
    I have the 6V in my 51 Hornet part number 1362P6 I also have there coil and plug wires all works beautifully.



    You have non-stock parts on your car? :eek:
  • Nope they are stock I had them stocked on my shelf so I put them in. Work like a charm and no more pissing around with points and condensors.
  • bob ward
    bob ward Senior Contributor
    Put the Pertronix in.
  • 51hornetA wrote:
    Nope they are stock I had them stocked on my shelf so I put them in. Work like a charm and no more pissing around with points and condensors.



    I thought you mechanical types liked to change points. Your set-up is probably a godsend for a distributor with worn cam lobes. Sounds like a GM HEI set-up with a divorced coil. As long as you're happy with it that's all that counts.
  • I'm really happy with my 6V Pertronix I got from Russ and Randy Maas. I sent my entire distributor to them and it came back a few days later looking like a new unit. It works wonderfully!
  • 464Saloon
    464Saloon Senior Contributor
    I have the Pertronix 12v with their flame thrower coil im my 54 Hornet. Also have one in my 68 442 and my 55 F-100. All three work great.
  • drivergo2
    drivergo2 Expert Adviser
    Thanks for the info you guys. John drivergo2
  • Jay_G
    Jay_G Expert Adviser
    I have the 6v version on my 53 308 stroker. Works like a dream. I hid the wires so no one could tell.



    Jay
  • Jim Kilday
    Jim Kilday Expert Adviser
    Will the Per Tronix system work in a 1946 8-cylinder engine?
  • hornet53
    hornet53 Senior Contributor
    buying the pertronix kit and the coil. They sell an oil filled coil and an epoxy filled one. since the 308 mounts upside down, should I get the epoxy or the oil, or does it make a difference?
  • Epoxy coils are good where high vibration is a factor.Oil filled coils are supposed to cool better but are supposed to leak when installed upside down.* However, I believe that the original coils were oil filled and I've seen many that did not appear to have leaked...yet.
  • ski4life65
    ski4life65 Expert Adviser
    I bought the epoxy one about a year ago. No problems...works great. If you are going for original appearence, maybe the oil filled would look better, since the epoxy filled is all "plastic". I don't think too many people would really notice though.

    To answer your question, I don't think it makes much difference. I would be really surprised if the oil filled would ever leak.



    Don
  • super651
    super651 Senior Contributor
    drivergo2.

    Could you take a picture of the one in your Dist. (the complete set-up)

    Thanks so much. Rudy
  • drivergo2
    drivergo2 Expert Adviser
    MY hornets in a garage at my Inlaws I cant get to it right away. Anybody out there that can take a picture of theirs for him. Thanks John drivergo2:)
  • Anybody know how to get ahold of Russ or Randy Maas? I saw their names in a post about the petronix. I'm looking for someone who can tell me if it'll work on my car. I'm running a IGS 4213 distributor on the 308 in my '49 and would really like to switch to a Petronix system. I have a spare distributor ready for a conversion and if they're set up to do the job, I'd love to talk with them... Thanks, Aaron
  • Hi Aaron,



    email at hetmaasfh@ntslink.net Drop het



    phone 309=267-6158



    Randy maas
  • drivergo2 wrote:
    Is this a good system to go to Is it cost effective .Its going in a 53 308 gone thru but not totaly rebuilt.Its a twin H thanks John drivergo2
    Going to electronic ignition is the best thing you can do. When I decided I needed electronic ignition there was nothing available, six years ago, so I took a 1980 AMC Concord distributor, took it to my machine shop along with a regular distributor and tool them install the shaft in it. This they did and then I installed a Jacobs brain box and what a difference in performance. Went to KGB plugs set a 48 thousands and got 2 more miles per gallon. Before that I could not make a complete trip around the country without resetting the points and gas mileage would drop off. Six trip around this country since and never had to touch the distributor since. Yes, I'm 12 volts. Have air and cruise control. If I keep it under 90 I get 22 to 23 MPG.
  • super651
    super651 Senior Contributor
    Walt,what # is on the KGB Plugs ?

    Thanks Rudy
  • Ol racer
    Ol racer Senior Contributor
    Hi

    Just to be different (Well at the time I talked with Pertonix and nothing was available like now, but they said to send my Dist for evauation on a cost Estimate) so I bought a Crane XR700 Universal 4 - 6cyl Point Conversion Kit on EBay and fit into my Dist (easily). Discard the points & condenser then screwed in tiny photo cell running wires thru side hole then a thin washer goes on underneath rotor... A small 'box' mounts on firewall using stock coil. (Its 12V Only)). The Crane Unit interfaces with all MSD Electronic Boxes.. I liked it so well I bought another for my next motor. Crane is another Option if have 12V System.....
  • super651 wrote:
    Walt,what # is on the KGB Plugs ?

    Thanks Rudy
    Rudy, they are NGK's #B6HS. Have a little ver 50,000 miles on them and they still look new. The first year the spark was melting the electros on Champions, first H-11 then H-10 Then H-8 till I called JACOBS and they told me to use NGK but I would have to find the correct heat range. Talking with the dealer I went to a medium range and they are perfect. I don't think a Petronic set up will work for these plugs unless you play with heat range. Walt.
  • super651 wrote:
    Walt,what # is on the KGB Plugs ?

    Thanks Rudy
    The plugs are a light brown color which means they are perfect. I also played with the carburetors and closed the main jet 2 thousands. Wa-1's 968's and jet is 101 and now i'm 099. Running race cars for 35 years taught me about jetting. Walt.
  • walt's garage-53 wrote:
    The plugs are a light brown color which means they are perfect. I also played with the carburetors and closed the main jet 2 thousands. Wa-1's 968's and jet is 101 and now i'm 099. Running race cars for 35 years taught me about jetting. Walt.



    Walt,



    Where did you find calibrated parts for these carburetors?



    Mark
  • `Hudsonator wrote:
    Walt,



    Where did you find calibrated parts for these carburetors?



    Mark
    I have a book that list every carburetor made from 1916 to 1975 and list every part # and drill size. I rebuild carbs, all makes and have all the tools needed. Carter WA-! take a special metering rod tool along with all WDO's and WGD's 2 barrells. W-1's and all the other WA-1 have settings that must be followed. Float, mettering rods, accelerator pump, linkage rod to pump and meter pins. The anti-percolator adjustment is a must as this if not set correctly will make hard starting after you shut of a hot engine. If jet are worn they have to be replaced or remachined which I have a machinest that does doctors equipment repairs and he likes to work on small stuff. Walt.
  • duncan
    duncan Expert Adviser
    Hi Walt I was given back a Edmunds twin 2 barrel alluminum intake

    last weekend. I was thinking of putting it on our 54 Hornet Hollywood.

    I have 3 2115s 2 bbl carbs that come with the intake. how much would you charge to rebuild them and do what is necessary and any ideas on

    linkage. duncan
  • duncan wrote:
    Hi Walt I was given back a Edmunds twin 2 barrel alluminum intake

    last weekend. I was thinking of putting it on our 54 Hornet Hollywood.

    I have 3 2115s 2 bbl carbs that come with the intake. how much would you charge to rebuild them and do what is necessary and any ideas on

    linkage. duncan
    The first thing that must be done is to reset the main jets to what one 2115s was when used on the Hudson manifold. 2 stock carburetors on that Edmunds would flood your engine with gas and wash the cylinders down. After I figure what the main jets will have to be in each carb I would then add 2 thousand more to them. The idle jets and the intermediate jets will also have to closed a few thousands. People are going to tell you install them as is but you will not get the performance or gas mileage. If you are going to run a drag strip where you get the RPM over 3,000 off the line that's fine, but not highway driving. Cost will have to be somewhere in the 600 to 800 range which includes the kits and machine work. Without the manifold and carbs setting on the manifold, linkage will be hard to say. This is a job that needs a block with a head on it plus the intake then linkage can be made. I have this set up. I just finished putting a Hornet Twin H in a 47 Commodore 8 and made the throttle linkage. Walt.
  • duncan
    duncan Expert Adviser
    Hi Walt Thanks for the post. I have not started driving our car yet. The

    car has a twih H set up on now but the carbs were pluged solid so found

    a set of Holley single barrel carbs . It runs very good. My question is

    Would the Edmund intake be better or worse when fixed properly.

    What is your opinion . I like Hiway use but also taking off from lights.

    if you know what I meen. duncan
  • Twin H manifold is better for gas distribution than the Edmunds. The Edmunds being aluminum is much lighter. I would go with the Twin H intake. There is a guy in St.Albert that will rebuild your Carters for you he does a good job. Send me an email I will send you info. He also has all the jetting tools so he can rejet to factory spec, lean etc. Whatever you want.
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