Need help with DuPont paint number

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edited November -1 in HUDSON
I need a DuPont number for a 1934 color called 'Desert tan'. I have a Sherwin Williams paint chip chart with the color, but it doesn't have a color number. The chip is too small to use their scanning machine to get a match. Does anyone have a DuPont chart for 1934 with a number on it?

I have tried the Dupont and Auto Color historical web site, but It's not listed. I have written to and received the color charts from the club library, and talked to the club paint adviser to no avail. Even a paint number from another company might work.



Thanks

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  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    There is/was a co. in New Joisey, ????? Restorations, which not only has/had the paint formulas for all HETs back into the late 20s, they can/could make it for you as well. I even got paint from them in nitroceluous once!

    I haven't used them for some time, may someone in the East knows their name?
  • Richard E.
    Richard E. Senior Contributor
    I believe that it is called "Hibernia?" They advertise in Hemmings Motor News. If this is not correct, I'm sure that someone will pipe in.
  • mars55
    mars55 Senior Contributor
    Here is Hibernia Restorations in New Jersey web site.



    http://www.hiberniaautorestorers.com/
  • 35Terra
    35Terra Senior Contributor
    Scott,



    My 35 is painted with Dupont Centari B8462A Tan. Not sure if it is what you are looking for. I would post a picture but can't seem to make it come up. If you post an email address I can send it to you directly.



    Jim
  • mars55
    mars55 Senior Contributor
    Well, I found a color for 1934 Hudsons called Florida Tan. Its Ditz-lac Intermix (IM) System Number is IM-1448.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I will pursue all the above ideas. mars55 I was wondering if paint companies used different names for the same color?



    Thanks
  • mars55
    mars55 Senior Contributor
    Scott wrote:
    I will pursue all the above ideas. mars55 I was wondering if paint companies used different names for the same color?



    Thanks



    It's very possible. I doubt Hudson had two different tans in 1934. One thing you may encounter is that the paint chip color may have changed over the years and no longer represents the true Hudson color. Otherwise have a small batch of Florida Tan made up and see if it is the color you want.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I called Sherwin Williams yesterday to see if they could help. Unfortunately they did not show a Desert Tan for 1934, even though I have their original chip chart in my hand. They did have 7-10 colors called Desert Tan for more modern cars. I got the codes and car models and will now try that angle.
  • super-six
    super-six Expert Adviser
    If you would happen to find a modern crossover number, sometimes they are not that accurate anyway. If you are confident that the color of the chip you have is the color that you want, match it up with another chip at the paint store. It may take some time but most paint stores will work with you. I've discovered this when searching for a color for the current car that I am doing.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Larry, That's what it looks like I'm going to have to do. I took an afternoon off work last week to do just that and all it did was give me more home work.

    I have a great paint shop but I spent three hours there and still couldn't come up with a match. That's way I am going to chase down these new colors.

    As hard as this is to match, I think I could just pick one and who would ever Know? I guess I would, but I'm going to stick it out a little longer.
  • super-six
    super-six Expert Adviser
    I know looking for a color can get into a lot of time. But you're right, Scott. And who knows, if after this many years, the color of the chip hasn't changed?
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Have you tried, the clasic color from Glasurit. They have the best color match and they may be able to use a spectrophotometer to recreate your color. This is the german paint that show cars usually use.

    http://www.glasurit.com/en_UK/COLOR/ClassicCarColors/index.xml

    I will also recomend you to visit the classic car color libraryhttp://www.autocolorlibrary.com/

    Bet of luck.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Sorry to say it's really unlikely that any manufacturers code that you come across can be used to mix any modern paint color to match. All paint formulas are system specific and once a paint system (DuPont "DUCO" for example) goes out of production, 99.9 percent of the time none of the formulas are usable any longer.



    My solution to a similar problem was to find a modern color by looking through the paint store's chip books. I was able to find a color that was really close and the guys used my chip and tinted it to match perfectly. (It helps if you bring donuts in the morning for the crew when you plan to sit there all day looking through their books!)



    Tom
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