What does this number mean ?
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I can't seem to locate the winter, or spring issue of WTN that I need to identify this number, so thought maybe someone a little more organized than me can help me out here.
On the top hinge, passenger door, on my '53 Coupe, there is a number "156" stamped there. From a previous issue of WTN that I have here, I understand this is the paint code number, that tells the boys in the paint shop at the factory what colour to paint the car.
Sooo --- does anyone know what paint code "156" stands for ?
Also, looking at the door hinge on my "53 convert, there dosen't seem to be a number stamped there that I can see, but the doors are stacked in a pile of parts that I don't want to tear down right now, so maybe they're there, but just hidden by crud or old repaint attempts or something. I'll have to check that out at a later date.
silverone
On the top hinge, passenger door, on my '53 Coupe, there is a number "156" stamped there. From a previous issue of WTN that I have here, I understand this is the paint code number, that tells the boys in the paint shop at the factory what colour to paint the car.
Sooo --- does anyone know what paint code "156" stands for ?
Also, looking at the door hinge on my "53 convert, there dosen't seem to be a number stamped there that I can see, but the doors are stacked in a pile of parts that I don't want to tear down right now, so maybe they're there, but just hidden by crud or old repaint attempts or something. I'll have to check that out at a later date.
silverone
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#156 is Ebony Black0
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The number 156 for the 1953 model year meant that it was a two tone paint job with the top being Blue Grass green -upper and the bottom being Pearl Grey. There were a lot of cars that had no number stamped on the upper passenger side hinge.It's not that uncommon. The information given here is from a technical service bulletin issued by Hudson.0
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Well, this is confusing. Dave53-7C says it's Ebony Black, Hudzilla and the 1948 - 1954 Master Parts Calalog says it's Blue Grass green - upper and Pearl Grey - bottom and Ed Ostrowski's "The Hornet's Nest" column in the WTN says it's Ebony Black - upper and Pearl Grey - bottom.
The issues where Ed Ostrowski's "The Hornet's Nest" column in the WTN carried paint infomation is as follows:
1951 Nov/Dec 2007
1952 Jan/Feb 2008
1953 Mar/Apr 2008
1954 May/June 20080 -
If this is incorrect, there must have been lots of miscolored Hudsons running around. Ebony Black (upper) Pearl Gray (lower).
http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1953-hudson-pg01.jpg0 -
And then, of course, in true Hudson fashion there's another paint code list floating around that used letters instead of numbers.
Shown under "Two-Tone ColorCombinations - Extra Cost Two Standard Colors", this list says RP was Pearl Gray-Ebony Black. Black, by itself, is shown with letter K and Pearl Gray with letter G.
This listing is in my General Information Handbook. I don't remember the source, but think it may have been from a Parts Book.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
HudsonTech
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hudsontech wrote:And then, of course, in true Hudson fashion there's another paint code list floating around that used letters instead of numbers.
Shown under "Two-Tone ColorCombinations - Extra Cost Two Standard Colors", this list says RP was Pearl Gray-Ebony Black. Black, by itself, is shown with letter K and Pearl Gray with letter G.
This listing is in my General Information Handbook. I don't remember the source, but think it may have been from a Parts Book.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
HudsonTech
Memphis, TN
I know "RM" on a 48 Commodore means the two tone color Red and Maroon.....0 -
I suppose one way to find out for sure is to find some hidden areas on the car that may not have been exposed and see what color(s) those areas were.0
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Dave53-7C wrote:If this is incorrect, there must have been lots of miscolored Hudsons running around. Ebony Black (upper) Pearl Gray (lower).
http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1953-hudson-pg01.jpg
Very interesting indeed !! Since my car is black with a white top, I'll assume it came out of the factory with at least some black somewhere. It may have been repainted somewhere down the line, but whomever did it must have stripped it to bare metal, because I cam find no evidence of even a repaint, other than the paint on it now is "too good to be true". I doubt Hudson would have put out paint that nice on a mass produced car !!
Then again, Hudson was a class act, so who knows !!
By the sounds of some of those alternate color schemes, I'm glad I've got simple ebony black on the body, and ivory on the top ( goes really nice with the wide whitewalls, and is a knockout on the show circuit with a well prepared wax job). Some of those other combos sound really gastly !! Still, I can imagine some Guy at Barrett Jackson in 2050 or some such date ( after I'm long gone ) rattling on about how the numbers on the door post match exactly the paint code on this car, and therefore its worth at least a quarter mil more !! ( remember -- its 2050, and he's talking about Amero's, not dollars now ). :-)
I wonder if I'll care about my Hudsons in the next life ?
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silverone wrote:Very interesting indeed !! Since my car is black with a white top, I'll assume it came out of the factory with at least some black somewhere. It may have been repainted somewhere down the line, but whomever did it must have stripped it to bare metal, because I cam find no evidence of even a repaint, other than the paint on it now is "too good to be true". I doubt Hudson would have put out paint that nice on a mass produced car !!
Maybe your car was really loved by previous owners.
Then again, Hudson was a class act, so who knows !!
Can't argue with that.
By the sounds of some of those alternate color schemes, I'm glad I've got simple ebony black on the body, and ivory on the top ( goes really nice with the wide whitewalls, and is a knockout on the show circuit with a well prepared wax job). Some of those other combos sound really gastly !! Still, I can imagine some Guy at Barrett Jackson in 2050 or some such date ( after I'm long gone ) rattling on about how the numbers on the door post match exactly the paint code on this car, and therefore its worth at least a quarter mil more !! ( remember -- its 2050, and he's talking about Amero's, not dollars now ). :-)
And all of this depends on your car having its original door hinge.
I wonder if I'll care about my Hudsons in the next life ?
Probably not...too much eternal bliss
silverone.
Ah, the sweet mysteries of Hudson!0 -
mars55 wrote:Well, this is confusing. Dave53-7C says it's Ebony Black, Hudzilla and the 1948 - 1954 Master Parts Calalog says it's Blue Grass green - upper and Pearl Grey - bottom and Ed Ostrowski's "The Hornet's Nest" column in the WTN says it's Ebony Black - upper and Pearl Grey - bottom.
The issues where Ed Ostrowski's "The Hornet's Nest" column in the WTN carried paint infomation is as follows:
1951 Nov/Dec 2007
1952 Jan/Feb 2008
1953 Mar/Apr 2008
1954 May/June 2008
Copies of each of the WTN articles are available as PDF files on my site:
http://members.aol.com/stepdown53/STEPDOWNRESTORATIONAIDS.html#PAINT_and_TRIM
See the line under paint... WTN articles provided by Sam Jackson...0 -
Heart Of Texas wrote:Copies of each of the WTN articles are available as PDF files on my site:
http://members.aol.com/stepdown53/STEPDOWNRESTORATIONAIDS.html#PAINT_and_TRIM
See the line under paint... WTN articles provided by Sam Jackson...
Awesome info Ken - thanks !!
Guess my car will be a lot cheaper at the 2050 Barrett Jackson after all, with the "wrong" paint versus the codes on the door.
Aahh well, it'll lose another 25% of its value because it didn't come out of the factory with a radio delete plate either.
silverone.0 -
hudsontech wrote:And then, of course, in true Hudson fashion there's another paint code list floating around that used letters instead of numbers.
Shown under "Two-Tone ColorCombinations - Extra Cost Two Standard Colors", this list says RP was Pearl Gray-Ebony Black. Black, by itself, is shown with letter K and Pearl Gray with letter G.
This listing is in my General Information Handbook. I don't remember the source, but think it may have been from a Parts Book.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
HudsonTech
Memphis, TN
I guess I'm still confused with this issue. When we are talking about "pearl grey" lower, are we talking about the rocker panels, or the lower body panels under the rocket trail ??
I was always under the impression that the rocker panels on all cars were painted a silver color, and when I touched mine up a bit to hide a couple scratches, I found that a spray can of "Aluminum" color, matched perfectly.
I suppose though, with a bit of a stretch of the imagination, "pearl grey" could be substituted for "aluminum" in the ads by the sales department, since it sounds a lot "sexier" than aluminum.
Brings to mind a lincoln LSC I once owned back in the early nineties that was maroon, but they called that color "cabernet" !! Come to think of it, my wife's Jeep is maroon too, but in "sale speak" its "black cherry" !!
So is "pearl grey Hudson speak for "aluminum" --- and are we talking about rocker panels ??0 -
When they say "lower", they mean belt line down on mid 1950 thru 1954 production. The rockers were always "velechrome" (as you say, aluminum paint matches almost perfectly) except during 1954 production.. The upper color would have been from the belt line molding up. 1948 thru mid 1950, the lower color was on the "style line" mid body down to the rocker. The upper color was the rest of the car from the "styline" up
Jerry
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